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    Re: Shade's top 100 film and TV good guys

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    #70 - Lucas Hood - Banshee

    To no surprise of those following this list, Banshee recieves another mention in what will sadly be it's final mention. Yet I couldn't think of a better final entry than the main character of the show Lucas Hood. Very much a man of mystery, we don't even know Hood's real name by the end of the series. But we do learn about pieces of his life such as his time in the military and his complicated relationship with Carrie/Ana. A great character who while he may seem cold and ruthless at first, is shown to truly care about those around him. Fuck I miss this show!


    #69 - Mick Rory/Heatwave - Legends of Tomorrow
    No surprise this entry is kinda super hero packed given my fondness for the genre, yet for me not to include Mick Rory in my list would be a travesty. The thief and pyromaniac has gone through a lot in the Arrowverse from starting out as a campy villain to slowly turning into hero over the course of four seasons of Legends of Tomorrow. A personal highlight for me week in week out and a great source of entertainment.


    #68 - Spartacus - Spartacus

    Probably a little lower than I'd have liked, especially with the regretable tragedy around the character. For me Spartacus' first season was an epic, tragically it would be the poor health and later death of main actor Andy Whitfield which took me away from the show. Because honestly with respect to Liam McIntyre, Andy Whitfield was Spartacus in my eyes. He knocked it out the park. Such a sad story, great television show but a sad one to rewatch for me with that knowledge.


    #67 - Coleen Wing and Misty Knight - Luke Cage/Iron Fist
    A great duo who appeared across Marvel's Netflix series. Originally I did have plans to put both Misty and Coleen in as separate entries yet the more I thought about it, the more I couldn't separate or put one of them over the other which is a testament to how great the pairing are together. On one hand you have the badass, street wise detective Misty Knight while on the other you have the equally bad ass ninja Coleen Wing. While the Netflix shows have come to an end, I do sincerely hope we can see a miniseries of the daughters of the dragon down the line.


    #66 - Kara Danvers/Supergirl - Supergirl

    This may surprise people in how low Supergirl is on my list. But I think part of the reason about this, is that it for several reasons took me several seasons to truly connect to her character and the series as a whole. Yet season 4 in particular deserves a shout out, for being one of my favorite all time seasons across the arrowverse. What I do like about Kara, is just her genuiness. Like rarely do we see a truly good person on shows but she us one, which truly makes her standout in a universe filled with characters who have their demons.


    #65 - Daryl Dixon - The Walking Dead

    Man this show, it's gone up and down more than a roller coaster and yet still I'll continue to watch the Walking Dead without fail every Monday night. One of my favorite characters in the show, is one of it's longest serving characters Daryl Dixon. He's gruff and a loner for most part but Daryl has consistently been a great member of the Walking Dead family in his outcast like ways. His relationships with Rick and Carol have always been great to watch, but man he just needs to man up and get with Connie haha.


    #64 - Yondu - Guardians of the Galaxy

    Is someone cutting onions? I think that is how a lot of people felt come the end of Guardians of the Galaxy 2. A fantastic film filled with great performances topped off by Michael Rooker as Yondu. The disgraced Ravager going into this film, was very much a wild card as you could never been sure where his loyalties lied. Yet as the film progressed we learnt more about what was beneath the surface and how he truly loved Peter as a son. Fuck that ending devastated me.


    #63 - J'onn J'onzz/Hank Henshaw/Martian Manhunter - Supergirl

    Again my hero love comes in to play with for me, the true standout and backbone of the Supergirl series. When we first were introduced to Hank Henshaw in season 1, I had my concerns that we was going to see another corrupt government agent or mentor with a dark secret. Yet instead what he was hiding was some fantastic development as he was in fact the Martian Manhunter. Played by the absolutely fantastic David Hayewood who knocks it out the park continuously, my real standout moments with J'onn were in season 3 with him and his father as he looked to help his father settle into earth after years in captivity. Plus he's been a fantastic mentor and father figure in some ways to both Kara and Alex across the series.



    #62 - Gregory House - House M.D
    House M.D was a classic show which had me hooked the moment I saw it. Similar to Luther, I'd say one of the big reasons for it was it's titular character Gregory House. An incredible diagnostician, House was just as troubled as he was brilliant and it took us on an emotional rollercoaster throughout. From his crippling drug addiction to his heartbreaking relationship with Cuddy. House defo went through the ringer as did we with him. I still remember to this day several big moments from this show involving house such as the fantastic 3 stories episode as well as the sad, heart breaking episode where he tries to rescue a girl pinned down by rubble. A great show and a great character.


    #61 - Castiel - Supernatural

    While it's tough to say for certain, I'd definitely put Supernatural up there as my favorite television show. Filled with a strong group of characters who for various reasons have resonated with me. A true standout is the angel Castiel who is a constant source of entertainment with his deadpan, fish out of water antics. Yet he is more than just a comedic character because we have seen Castiel go through a lot, even a rather ill advised heel turn. Yet to his credit Misha Collins delivers regardless of the material. I think one true thing that makes Castiel standout to me was his relationship with the demon Meg. It says a lot that years on, I still watch videos shipping the two #Megstiel
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    Re: Shade's top 100 film and TV good guys

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    #60 Luke Cage
    While the first season was hit and miss (They shouldn't have got rid of Cottonmouth that early), there is no denying that season 2 of Luke Cage was a marked improvement. This was down to a lot of reasons but one constant for me has been the character of Luke Cage. While at times you wonder just what can truly threaten him, I felt the show built up the threats well to him. I also liked the very dark turn we saw his character towards the end which sucks knowing he won't be having anymore shows anytime soon.

    #59 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles

    Some proper nostalgia for me here. I grew up watching those terrible old TMNT movies and I've seen every movie since. While I don't feel we've yet to see the turtles done true justice on screen, the films are defo a guilty pleasure and the old animated series they had was great. If I had to pick, my favorite was unsurprisingly Raphael.

    #58 Andy Dufrense
    So I've made no bones about it, the Shawshank Redemption is my all time favorite movie. It's filled with killer performances and great characters with the main character Andy Dufrense very much going through the ringer throughout. Now whether Andy is guilty or not, is left up in the air. I personally believe Tommy's story about the other con, yet Andy is a mild mannered, intelligent man thrown into a violent world. Which he not only endures but is able to overcome in what is for me, one of the most epic reveals going as to how he got out that prison. Love this movie so much.

    #57 James Kirk and Spock

    Low I know, but let me explain why. I'm someone who has been very late to the Star Trek party. Like I do intend to go back and watch more but so far I've only seen the new movies and discovery on netflix. But I do want to give a shout out to the dynamic between Spock and Kirk in the movies as they are played brilliantly by Zachary Quinto and Chris Pine. In many ways at first there was a little early lethal weapon vibe between the two as they were polar opposites thrust together but overtime I really enjoyed seeing them unite and become friends.

    #56 Snake Plissken

    Honestly would be a lot, lot higher if it hadn't been so long since I've seen the films. Snake is a great character to watch throughout Escape from New York and Escape from LA. I think what I truly liked about him was just how jaded he was and how cynical he was. Like let's be honest there'd be no first movie if he didn't get arrested and get offered a pardon haha. Yet he's an iconic character and you can't go wrong with Kurt Russell.

    #55 John Rambo
    Yet to see the latest movie but an iconic character in my book. The original rambo is a film I have a lot of love for and it goes to the adage of the cost of fucking with someone you shouldn't have fucked with. Similar to Snake, there is a jadeness with Rambo especially in the 2008 film as by that point he's just given up. But even then he can't resist the fight to help others. Looking forward to seeing the new movie at some point.

    #54 Agents of Shield
    OK before I begin and this is a spoiler. This is everyone but Fitz and Simmons. I really struggled with this list and if I had more space I'd have split up the agents more. Can't say enough good things about this tremendous show, it had some teething issues in the beginning but then went from strength to strength and I love the work they've done with all the characters. Coulson, Mack, May, YoYo, Daisy and even Lincoln and Ward. All great characters.

    #53 John Diggle/Spartan
    Underused at points but a fantastic character on Arrow. John Diggle barring one other is my favorite character in Arrow and what I really like about him is how in some ways he's not just the conscience but also the voice of reason. It's also great to this day him freaking out about metahumans in one way or another, especially Barry. I'll miss Diggle when Arrow comes to an end.

    #52 Scott Lang/Ant-Man
    Maybe a little high compared to others on this part of the list but couldn't not include Ant-Man. While in some ways it is a shame that Hank Pym has been entirely glossed over to an extent in the MCU. I really like the character of the reformed criminal Scott Lang. He has great chemistry with Hope and Hank plus his relationship with his daughter is tremendous. A genuine delight and ray of sunshine on screen.

    #51 Lucifer Morningstar
    God I love this show. It's surprising how late to the party I was with Lucifer but I'm totally hooked. The show is tremendous and has one of my all time favorite TV episodes across any series with an episode called off the record. Of course the real standout in the show is the character of Lucifer Morningstar who truly shows how in this case the devil is misunderstood. While Lucifer at his best is a lot of fun, what I really like are the moments in between where we see the darkness. I need more than one more season.





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    #50 Caitlin Snow/Killer Frost - The Flash

    OK so my love of Superhero shows continues to the surprise of no one haha. I think it's safe to say though throughout the Flash, a character who constantly feels like she's coming just short of her potential is Caitlin Snow. While at first I worried we was going to see a slow burn villain turn from her in the early going, to my delight over the course of the show we've seen her overcome a lot including her own demons be a key part of Team Flash. I also love how they've set about showing just how different of a personality both Frost and Caitlin have despite sharing the same body.

    #49 Sherlock Holmes - Elementary
    Perhaps a little low thanks to sheer name value alone, we've seen many great portrayals of Sherlock Holmes over the years. Yet but for me an under appreciated, unheralded performance and portrayal was by Johnny Lee Miller in Elementary. The show was highly entertaining and had some great performances throughout of course led by Johnny's Sherlock who constantly seemed at war with himself to battle his addictions. True standout points for me would be when he gave into his darkness in particular moments.

    #48 Laurie Strode - Halloween
    One of my favorite Horror films which for me had one of the best scream queens of all time. I think what I truly like about Laurie in the Halloween films is that while she is perhaps overmatched when it comes to fighting Michael. She never stops trying to fight back or kill him. Jamie Lee Curtis is an absolutely fantastic actress and I was thrilled to see her in the new film. I'm excited for the sequel.

    #47 Sam Winchester ~ Supernatural
    Mentioned previously about my love for Supernatural, one of their strongest characters who has very much gone through the ringer is Sam Winchester. The younger of the Winchester Brothers, Sam very much wasn't about the hunter lifestyle. He wanted to go to college and get a good job until Brother Dean came knocking. Why I've got Sam a bit lower is, while he is a great character I've never felt as connected to him as I did with Dean.

    #46 Black Panther ~ MCU
    Maybe surprisingly low for some and while I'll admit to absolutely loving Black Panther as a film and a character. While Chadwick Boseman is perfect in the role, the reason I personally have held back on putting him higher is I'd like to see what they do with him in the sequel film, as apart from his own movie he's mainly appeared in ensembles. Regardless I'm hyped for the sequel.

    #45 Barry Allen/The Flash ~ The Flash
    While I love the Flash as a show and the character for most part. There is no denying that it can be frustrating to be a fan of the show and Barry Allen at points. A genuinely likable character who is shown to be intelligent if a little socially awkward. It can be annoying at points how stubborn Barry can be or at times lacking in common sense. Regardless I love the show and the character and I'm curious to see what happens with the crisis.

    #44 John Wick
    Now I'll be the first to admit I wanted him higher as all you got to do is give this man a gun and he could probs take down most of the whole list. When we first meet John Wick, he is in a bad way broken down from the death of his wife. Yet he's given a brief chance in happiness thanks to a puppy to help him deal with his grief. In one of the most horrific scenes going this is taken from him and awakens the boogeyman inside. The franchise is a ton of fun and I absolutely love the world it is set in. Plus Keanu Reeves is fantastic. Honestly can't express my love for John Wick enough.

    #43 Raylan Givens ~ Justified
    A tremendous character from a great show, Justified was a show I went from being slightly invested in to being completely immersed in. Part of this was because of the brilliance of Boyd Crowder, while the other half was the brilliance of Raylan Givens. A driven not too mention excessively blunt deliverer of Justice. Raylan at first appears to be willing to get into a shootout with anyone but we see overtime him being a little less inclined to pull the trigger himself. Yet make no mistake he is still highly ruthless in his methods while also producing a great quip here or there.

    #42 Guardians of the Galaxy ~ MCU
    Similar to what I said about the Agents of SHIELD, this was a hard one for me as ideally I'd have spaced them out. Yet it became hard for me to separate the Guardians who for me so far were the biggest surprise in the MCU. I'll admit I didn't see the movie in cinema and lacked all knowledge of them until I watched it on DVD at Christmas like 3 years ago. I absolutely love the mismatched family vibe the troop has and I'm more invested now thanks to the additions of Mantis and Nebula. Groot despite his one sentence has been apart one some of my favorite moments and Drax is the gift that keeps giving.

    #41 James Bond
    Got to admit this was a tough one to put down this far as I grew up with Bond. Regrettably that means as a kid I paid to see Die Another Day in Cinema haha. I will say that of the Bonds, I think that Daniel Craig is my favorite as Casino Royale and Skyfall are for me two of the best movies in the franchise. I know he keeps going back and forth with the character. My only hope is in next years bond film, he is given a definitive send off so we know for sure.





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    #40 Peggy Carter/Agent Carter - MCU
    A great character who I felt had the potential for a lot more in the MCU. While with the timeline being what it was we knew our time with Peggy Carter would be quite limited. Her appearances in the Captain America films were always welcome and provided some very emotional moments. Her own show however I found to be very underappreciated and I'm gutted that it only got two seasons. Was thrilled to see her get a happy ever after of sorts in Endgame and I'm looking forward to seeing the always great Hayley Atwell pop up in the next season of Agents of Shield!

    #39 T-800 - Terminator

    The classic case of a bad guy going good. When we first met the original terminator he was simply a machine with a mission to eliminate it's target. In fact if you'd only seen the first movie alone, you'd probably have him entrenched in your top villains list. This is where the future films come in and we see a much different T-800 in action. Now equipped with humanity and a great sense of humor. It has been a delight to watch Arnold continue to return to this role.

    #38 Jon Snow - Game of Thrones
    Along with Danaerys, arguably the face of Game of Thrones. Jon is a character who I got to be honest never truly clicked for me at points. Yet he was apart of some of the show's biggest moments which come to my mind and that warrants his place on my list. This includes one of my all time fave episodes which is the battle of the bastards. My only gripe is his ending in the story as he very much just went back to the beginning once more.

    #37 Will Graham - Hannibal
    Hannibal will always be one of my favorite shows. This is of course for many reasons including Mads Mikkelsen as Hannibal. Yet he truly shines when on screen with Hugh Dancy's portrayal of Will Graham. A fragile man with his demons, Will very much undergoes a rollercoaster throughout thanks to his relationship with Hannibal and towards the end it teases that he's undergone a villainous turn. I very much hope that we get a 4th and final season of the show to explain just where these two go next.

    #36 Jesse Pinkman - Breaking Bad
    So truthfully I went back and forth here about Jesse. As for a while I was like he was a drug dealer. Is he really a good guy? Yet as we saw especially in later parts of the show and in his movie, Jesse Pinkman is someone who truly cares about people and wants to do right. This is shown by his handling of the young kid Brock especially after he sadly got his mother killed. A great character who got a brilliant sendoff.

    #35 Marge Gunderson - Fargo

    My love for Fargo continues here with where it all began with hands down the best character the Coen Brothers have created. A detective with a lot on her plate, Marge was perhaps one of the purest characters I've seen in film. She even goes as far as to care about those who are doing wrong and despite being heavily pregnant she doesn't let that stop her from solving the case. Fantastic character!

    #34 Fitz/Simmons - Agents of Shield
    For those following this list this addition won't be a surprise with my comments during the AOS entry. I stand firmly by that Leo Fitz is hands down the best character in Agents of Shield. He has had his ups and downs but he is constantly for me the best thing on the show. Part of it is down to his fantastic relationship with Simmons who really grew as a character over the course of the show to. Couldn't split these two up and can't bear to see them apart on the show.

    #33 Tarzan
    A character from my childhood without a doubt. There is a lot of nostalgia for me in this selection but at the same time, can't deny having rewatched the old film recently. There is still a lot to like about the character. Loyal perhaps to a fault and incredibly caring. For me one of the true standout moments with Tarzan is that despite everything he has done, he was still trying to save Clayton the Hunter from his death.

    #32 Frank Castle/Punisher - MCU
    Arguably one of my favorite heroes/antiheroes of all time. I must admit that while they weren't the greatest of movies, I did enjoy both the Thomas Jane and Ray Stevenson outings as Frank Castle. Yet there is no denying that Jon Bernthal for me is the Punisher. The rage and anger he brings to the character is tremendous not too mention the brutality and what I also love is how despite everything you can see deep down there is still some good in him. This only comes out however during scenes with the likes of Karen and Amy. Special mention must go out to his later scenes with Daredevil and his trip to his families grave in the second season. Give us more of this punisher.

    #31 Clark Kent/Superman
    Closing out this chapter with a big one! So I'm gonna start out by saying that I really liked Man of Steel. I thought it was a great film and for me Henry Cavill is an excellent Superman. I like the fact that we see him still young and getting used to the mantle of a hero and I like how we see him deal with the consequences of taking a life. Know there is a lot of upheaval in the DC Universe atm but please keep him around. Also shout out to CW's Supergirl who have also delivered us with a great superman in their own right.





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    Great shout on Peggy, possibly the most underrated hero in the MCU

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    Jon Snow is a wonderful good guy character. He is the character that puts the world before personal gain and realises how stupid the fighting down south was. I agree with your placement because of what a complete disaster the last four seasons were and how they completely butchered his story. But for four and a bit seasons he was absolutely my favourite character in the show. His leadership at the battle of the wall (also my favourite episode) was the highlight.

    Jesse Pinkman is a good guy that was badly manipulated and made bad choices. Does that make him bad? I think we've seen enough of his compassion and loyalty (sometimes ill placed) to say he was all round good. Wonderful, sympathetic character.

    Also agreed about Marge from Fargo.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Great shout on Peggy, possibly the most underrated hero in the MCU

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    Totally agree with you there man. I can't wait for that episode of What if where she gets the super soldier serum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shock View Post
    Jon Snow is a wonderful good guy character. He is the character that puts the world before personal gain and realises how stupid the fighting down south was. I agree with your placement because of what a complete disaster the last four seasons were and how they completely butchered his story. But for four and a bit seasons he was absolutely my favourite character in the show. His leadership at the battle of the wall (also my favourite episode) was the highlight.

    Jesse Pinkman is a good guy that was badly manipulated and made bad choices. Does that make him bad? I think we've seen enough of his compassion and loyalty (sometimes ill placed) to say he was all round good. Wonderful, sympathetic character.

    Also agreed about Marge from Fargo.



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    You know I always forget about the battle of the wall and that is a terrible oversight on my part as it was tremendous. Jon at times was fantastic and it's honestly a shame that the writing did tarnish his character. For me though there is perhaps just a small handful of characters I'd put above him as my favorite and a lot of that is defo down to how he was written at points. Glad we agree on Jesse, he very much seemed lost and would look for a father figure which we'd see in moments with Walt, Mike and even Gus sometimes. With the right person in his life who knows how he'd turn out!





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