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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Sterling Jagger: This was simple, basic and left me wanting to see more. I'm interested to see if you have a direction in mind for the character from here, or if this is just a one off, reactionary promo.

    Cheshire Cat Clan: The big thing with these two promos, beyond the similar basis in "failure" and depression is the strength of both sets of characters. Jagger and then the CCC, they're very pronounced characters, very strong characters that have a lot more to them than just being Pro Wrestlers. Thats what leaves me wanting to see more from both these promos. Because the characters are there, they're loud characters, fun characters, there's a lot to them there.

    XYZ: I loved how natural this conversation felt between X and Al, it flowed really well. And in a way the contrast between Al's enthusiasm and X's disjointed darkness/depression/I cant think of the right word, but the contrast adds to it somehow. Its more naturally flowing in its unnatural way with how X approaches the discussion. Really well written and constructed piece here.
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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Everyone who is relatively new to e-fedding in the FWA and is trying to figure out creative ways to approach promos, how to intertwine their stories with their opponents' stories, and just how to write really well should read the Gabrielle promo.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden One View Post
    Everyone who is relatively new to e-fedding in the FWA and is trying to figure out creative ways to approach promos, how to intertwine their stories with their opponents' stories, and just how to write really well should read the Gabrielle promo.

    I just reread it honestly...and I tried to rep it because of how enjoyable it was, but apparently I already did it the first time I repped it.

    At the same time though, I hate it. In the same way I hate all of ETE's promos...Because every time I read it, I say "damn, I wish I thought of that".

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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    My biggest gripe is that i think people except a long promo is better then short. I feel like you can good as much from a short one then a long.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Yup, but you also can show more range and flesh out your character better in longer promos. I've always said that around 2200-2500 words should be the mark. Not too long, not too short.

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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    ETE knocks it out of the park every time with his work, this one is no exception imo. Everyone did real well this show, grading hasn’t been easy for this one let me tell you.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sayer View Post
    Yup, but you also can show more range and flesh out your character better in longer promos. I've always said that around 2200-2500 words should be the mark. Not too long, not too short.
    Ehh I mean personally for me I feel like if I am writing a long promo im just repeating the same stuff or lose interest I rather hit my points and stuff then go on and on but I got a short attention span not to say those who have long promos bore me cause a lot of you really are good at it and much better writer then me but I like to keep my stuff short or seeing some that are short but I feel like its being held against vs. long promos. I think people get what I mean.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    I wouldn't say its holding against you for doing a short promo, but you are naturally going to get more points for quality if you spend more time setting the scene and painting a vivid picture of what's going on in the scene. With the dialogue, to me, it's more about pacing and establishing tone more than anything else. Make me feel what you're feeling.

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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sayer View Post
    I wouldn't say its holding against you for doing a short promo, but you are naturally going to get more points for quality if you spend more time setting the scene and painting a vivid picture of what's going on in the scene. With the dialogue, to me, it's more about pacing and establishing tone more than anything else. Make me feel what you're feeling.
    Setting the scene is one thing. just I feel like more points get added for more dialogue you got. I seen few guys write great promos short and lose to longer ones. Penny is a prime example of someone writing shorter promo who writes great ones I love the Penny Character.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden One View Post
    Everyone who is relatively new to e-fedding in the FWA and is trying to figure out creative ways to approach promos, how to intertwine their stories with their opponents' stories, and just how to write really well should read the Gabrielle promo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    I just reread it honestly...and I tried to rep it because of how enjoyable it was, but apparently I already did it the first time I repped it.

    At the same time though, I hate it. In the same way I hate all of ETE's promos...Because every time I read it, I say "damn, I wish I thought of that".
    Damn, thanks guys. That means a lot honestly.

    I guess it's just me being my own toughest critic but it's rare that I'm ever truly happy with how I've executed a promo idea. Reading things like this challenges this mentality.

    On the topic of length of promos, personally I aim for 2000 words minimum. That's generally enough to set the scene, work the character and address the match/feud.

    Quality over quantity of course, but there's too short. Like OMB I felt like both your promos this week had alot of potential there but were too short, for my liking. They weren't able to delve into the "story" enough.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    1,300 words is the perfect range for a promo imo. I don't know how long this Gabrielle one was. Shorter promos can be good and I've seen and graded many shorter promos to beat longer ones.

    That being said, it's not commonplace. The more words you use, the more room you have to tell your character's story. It's tough to tell an in-depth and balanced story in 600 words or less.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Mike Parr: My favourite promo for this show honestly. I think efedding is probably its most fun in my opinion when there's these big overarching storylines that pull in multiple people. It produces fun and creative promos like this. Parr isn't (at least yet) involved with all the stuff that went down between Sully/Kennedy and Cyrus/Krash yet just having a match with Cyrus means there's potentially all those people involved, and so much material there. Its why I went with the courtroom setting for my promo, facing Krash now there's so many other people involved with that. This promo was a really fun and engaging way to address all of that. In these scenarios you can simply have your character address everyone/everything (and there's nothing wrong with that) or there's potential to go with something unique that makes it easier to address everything going on. And on top of that I've always been a sucker for this type of promo as well, where someone takes the FWA characters and puts them in a new setting, framing it all in a completely different and creative way. Within that I loved the analogy of Struth and Gabry being "guards" and Gold Den being the old guard as it were. Little things like that add so much depth and importance for lack of a better word. Little things that are used to tie the whole scene together but also address people like Cyrus, and Gabrielle. I loved Den's take on Gabry L, its a perfect mix of the FWA "reality" and this Prison based "reality". I have to single that out because I genuinely thought it was really good, and really well written. The actual wrestling "promo" part of it, the second half didn't take anything away from the first half of the promo either. It built from it and took the aspect of Mike being "caged" and really delved into the FWA side of that. In simplest terms, this was a "big deal" promo, this was a Star promo. Amazing work.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Golden One View Post
    1,300 words is the perfect range for a promo imo. I don't know how long this Gabrielle one was. Shorter promos can be good and I've seen and graded many shorter promos to beat longer ones.

    That being said, it's not commonplace. The more words you use, the more room you have to tell your character's story. It's tough to tell an in-depth and balanced story in 600 words or less.
    This promo was roughly 3400 words.


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    Re: Fight Night Promo Discussion Thread

    Thank you Cyrus/ETE for the reviews. I'm sorry it has taken me this long to get back to you and that I got to this too late to return the favor.

    This was so far away from my usual style but that's what going against Cyrus does, and I mean it as a compliment, I knew I had to do something different to stand a chance and I took a risk with it as best I could. There's no better motivation than to go against somebody who is clearly consistently better. To get positive feedback from two of the best writers in the place is very gratifying.

    I'll do my best to participate more in this threads from this week.

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