Page 2 of 15 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 284

Thread: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament - Discussion Thread

  1. #21
    Underdog
    OBEY's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    223
    Rep Power
    103125

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Ah, man. I really want to get involved, writing in these tournaments is always the most fun I have writing. With my new project just about to get started, though, it may not be the best idea. I'll see if I can get something written up between now and the deadline for sign ups, seeing as the challenge is the same as last years, before committing to this.

  2. #22
    No One
    Jon Snow's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Westeros
    Posts
    13,381
    Rep Power
    790224
      Country                    Canada

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I hope you guys move completely away from WWE-centric themes (or any company-centric themes, tbh) this year. It's a bit weird to me to bottleneck someone like that. Last year 2/4 were WWE-centric which imo is unappealing if you're not into that company. But again, I dont mean this specifically because its WWE, I'd say the same if it were NJPW/AEW.

  3. #23
    ʕノ•ᴥ•ʔノ ︵ ┻━┻
    Baloocha's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Northern Germany
    Posts
    1,198
    Rep Power
    203674
      Country                    Norfolk Island

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    In.


  4. #24
    Judging, mostly

    Wolf Beast's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    1,582
    Rep Power
    822403
      Country                    Ireland

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Snow View Post
    I hope you guys move completely away from WWE-centric themes (or any company-centric themes, tbh) this year. It's a bit weird to me to bottleneck someone like that. Last year 2/4 were WWE-centric which imo is unappealing if you're not into that company. But again, I dont mean this specifically because its WWE, I'd say the same if it were NJPW/AEW.
    Fair comment. I'll be honest though, that's not something I'd really considered until now - and yeah, I really should have. I guess as the issue didn't crop up and wasn't discussed at any point in last years tournament, that may be why I've overlooked that. As stated in the opening post, my intention is to run the tournament much like last year, considering how smoothly everything went, so as it stands, yeah, 2 out of the 4 rounds are currently set to be WWE centric. That said, by making a minor tweak to the final round, all but one round of the tournament will potentially be open to any company and any time period.

    Looking around the section, the majority of threads are WWE based, and the majority of non-WWE threads are written by people that have previous WWE threads, so I'd be confident enough that anyone entering will at least be comfortable with some form of WWE centric challenge. That's not an exact science mind you, as the tournament is open to anyone regardless of whether they've booked here before - so I'll concede that's a fairly dangerous assumption to make.

    IF there's anyone that's hesitant to sign up because they're worried the tournament will be too WWE centric (or any other promotion) please let it be known and I'll take it into consideration and make adjustments if necessary.

  5. #25
    t h e o g
    ranthellacious's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    438
    Rep Power
    236773
      Country                    Canada

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    As long as the first round is something that lets me continue my sequels to AMAZING wrestling movies...I'm good.


  6. #26
    Hail To The King
    OMB's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    5,984
    Rep Power
    769312
      Country                    United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Snow View Post
    I hope you guys move completely away from WWE-centric themes (or any company-centric themes, tbh) this year. It's a bit weird to me to bottleneck someone like that. Last year 2/4 were WWE-centric which imo is unappealing if you're not into that company. But again, I dont mean this specifically because its WWE, I'd say the same if it were NJPW/AEW.
    It really shouldnt matter as long as the writting is good i mean if you are a fan of njpw do your wheelhouse.




    Now I could see if u set a subject for each round and do that like rd 1 wwe only rd 2 women only etc. That way its a set guideline set across whole field.
    Last edited by OMB; 07-08-2019 at 03:41 PM.


    Spoiler:


    CWA World Heavyweight Champion
    Brayden Bridges




  7. #27
    Curtain Jerker

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Oh that is brilliant news then. Sign me up chaps.

  8. #28
    Freshly Squeezed
    Ty2J's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    802
    Rep Power
    92932
      Country                    United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by OMB View Post
    It really shouldnt matter as long as the writting is good i mean if you are a fan of njpw do your wheelhouse.




    Now I could see if u set a subject for each round and do that like rd 1 wwe only rd 2 women only etc. That way its a set guideline set across whole field.
    I think what he means is the rounds where you’re given two random WWE guys and tasked with booking a match, for example. That’s the only real company centric stuff that would be a put off, especially as someone who wouldn’t be able to do it as well like myself because I have only seen pay-per views for WWE this year and am not always the most familiar with week to week advances in stories


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk



  9. #29
    Charismatic Enigma
    Rasky's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    706
    Rep Power
    120608
      Country                    United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I'm in!



  10. #30
    Tag Team Specialist
    White Rhyno's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    The burbs of B-more
    Posts
    1,065
    Rep Power
    213388
      Country                    us=United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    The time constraints on this are just too tight for me to participate, but I wish all of you the best of luck.

    Best advice I can give you is to jump on it as soon as you get the criteria. Seriously, the deadlines are harsh. You can't put off writing anything to the night before and expect to advance.


  11. #31
    Relentless Admin

    Ed's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Dudley, England
    Posts
    36,567
    Rep Power
    2361321
      Country                    England

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Beast View Post
    Fair comment. I'll be honest though, that's not something I'd really considered until now - and yeah, I really should have. I guess as the issue didn't crop up and wasn't discussed at any point in last years tournament, that may be why I've overlooked that. As stated in the opening post, my intention is to run the tournament much like last year, considering how smoothly everything went, so as it stands, yeah, 2 out of the 4 rounds are currently set to be WWE centric. That said, by making a minor tweak to the final round, all but one round of the tournament will potentially be open to any company and any time period.

    Looking around the section, the majority of threads are WWE based, and the majority of non-WWE threads are written by people that have previous WWE threads, so I'd be confident enough that anyone entering will at least be comfortable with some form of WWE centric challenge. That's not an exact science mind you, as the tournament is open to anyone regardless of whether they've booked here before - so I'll concede that's a fairly dangerous assumption to make.

    IF there's anyone that's hesitant to sign up because they're worried the tournament will be too WWE centric (or any other promotion) please let it be known and I'll take it into consideration and make adjustments if necessary.
    Just to add to this, you've also got to set challenges that the judges will be comfortable and confident in marking. If I was taking part in the tournament and decided to write a Cavernario Vs Soberano Jr hair Vs mask match set in CMLL, I could write it to the best of my abilities but I'd still be handing in something to mark that the judges might be clueless on and it becomes harder to enjoy compared to a WWE match where you are familiar with people and can imagine the exchanges of moves more easily. Not to mention, challenges that include writing out promos becomes a lot tougher to sound realistic in Japanese or Mexican promotions because even translated into English, a Kazuchika Okada promo is not going to sound like something you'd hear in an America promotion, but naturally you'd end up writing something that sounded like two English wrestlers going back and forth with each other because that's what you're used to.

    I would encourage people to be as creative as possible though and write what they want to write in the non-WWE centric tasks, but from the judges point of view I can totally understand having a couple of tasks that are WWE focused and easier for the participates to write for.

    Part of me is tempted to sign up, but at the same time I'm due to move house soon and it is G1 time

  12. #32
    Underdog
    OBEY's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    223
    Rep Power
    103125

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I can definitely see the benefit of having WWE centric tasks when it comes to judging, although the second round from last year is a major turn off for me. I don't watch much WWE at all these days, most of the wrestling I watch is old Raw's and SmackDown's in research for project's, so a modern day WWE centric challenge is something I'd struggle with. I really like the idea of restricting our freedom with a challenge though, which is what I feel like that second task is for. Forces us to be a bit more creative. Maybe rather than the randomly generated feuds, though, judges could put together a list of 5 or 6 feuds for us to choose from, from different time periods or promotions. Or even setting some rules that need to be followed for the set task. There's other ways of going about the challenges that wont limit people as much as generating a random feud from the current WWE roster, whilst also forcing us to be more creative by not giving us the freedom to do whatever we want like we get with the first task.

  13. #33
    I’m Not Booked!
    Keefmoon's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    922
    Rep Power
    572286

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I don't wanna say too much as we're talking about a round a way in the future, and Wolfy and I have had a couple of chats about this already about what will work and what won't. As someone who also doesn't watch much current day WWE, I definitely sympathise (both as someone who had to do it in last year's competition and as a judge who will be reading this stuff). We want it to be as appealing and enjoyable for the entrants as possible.

    I do want to add though that the point of the challenge is that things are fixed, and as such will make it harder. And if you're fixing it, there's no guaranteed way to make it so everyone is happy. I'd be reluctant to lose a round where things are slightly more fixed, simply because seeing how someone responds to that kind of adversity is a measure of their ability as a writer. For instance, EZ3 progressed last year despite the bum draw of all bum draws AND never having seen either entrant before. It was his ability to work around that that showed what a talented writer he is and how deserving he was of a Semi Final spot.

    And, don't forget, as judges we know this is the case. If you get a couple of nobodies, we will be well aware that this is a bigger challenge than if you draw The Undertaker vs. Triple H. What I'll be looking for is how you work around a shite draw through creativity and storytelling. Do you still base it in WWE? Do you base it in 2019? How do you add personalities to guys who don't have any? And at the end of the day, given you're going up against someone else, it's not like Noam Dar vs Sumil Singh is automatically an easy draw for one person just because they've seen them both wrestle.

    But like I say, I do sympathise, and we are always chatting about how to make this work best (like trying to make some rounds somewhat less time-consuming, and the final round not necessarily WWE-centric). I'd hope no-one will be put off from entering because a round in the future that they may or may not reach may not be to their liking, especially before we've said what that round is or what the criteria around it will be.

    And Obey, appreciate that you're getting your thread up and running, but I'd personally love to see what you'd bring to the table in this kinda format if you think you have time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Part of me is tempted to sign up, but at the same time I'm due to move house soon and it is G1 time
    Do it!

  14. #34
    Main Eventer
    Sykotic's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cardiff
    Posts
    8,685
    Rep Power
    411231
      Country                    Wales

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I think Curt Hawkins versus John Cena at Wrestlemania was a great idea... no?

  15. #35
    No One
    Jon Snow's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Westeros
    Posts
    13,381
    Rep Power
    790224
      Country                    Canada

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    If I was participating in this (I'd like to but time is life's most precious commodity), I'd be a bit more adamant about it, but I'm not, so shrug. I dont think Id mind losing if I wrote something of a product thats foreign to the judges and theres too much dissonance there.

    I dont mind challenges or being restricted, but the company bit feels like a restriction for some, and not so much for others. It becomes an uneven challenge. I actually think the random opponents challenge is pretty cool. The completely easy tweak here is having people sign up with extra information (preferred company to write for) or having alternative challenges (99% of companies have their own Wrestlemanias, so you're Road to Wrestlemania could have easily translated to a Road to WK/BITW/BFG/AI.

    In any case, I do understand that WWE is mega popular, but I dont see the need to stick to it in challenges. Im sure you guys can find other challenges that are restricting but not in a way that can be unfair for one guy in a challenge while not restricting at all for the other.

    Im not participating tho, so its just my 2cents.

  16. #36
    Hail To The King
    OMB's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    Buffalo
    Posts
    5,984
    Rep Power
    769312
      Country                    United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Snow View Post
    If I was participating in this (I'd like to but time is life's most precious commodity), I'd be a bit more adamant about it, but I'm not, so shrug. I dont think Id mind losing if I wrote something of a product thats foreign to the judges and theres too much dissonance there.

    I dont mind challenges or being restricted, but the company bit feels like a restriction for some, and not so much for others. It becomes an uneven challenge. I actually think the random opponents challenge is pretty cool. The completely easy tweak here is having people sign up with extra information (preferred company to write for) or having alternative challenges (99% of companies have their own Wrestlemanias, so you're Road to Wrestlemania could have easily translated to a Road to WK/BITW/BFG/AI.

    In any case, I do understand that WWE is mega popular, but I dont see the need to stick to it in challenges. Im sure you guys can find other challenges that are restricting but not in a way that can be unfair for one guy in a challenge while not restricting at all for the other.

    Im not participating tho, so its just my 2cents.
    At the same time comes uneven for those who dont watch other compaines its a catch 22. Then again like I said at end of day its bout writting bout creativty and who didthebest.


    Spoiler:


    CWA World Heavyweight Champion
    Brayden Bridges




  17. #37
    No One
    Jon Snow's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Westeros
    Posts
    13,381
    Rep Power
    790224
      Country                    Canada

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by OMB View Post
    At the same time comes uneven for those who dont watch other compaines its a catch 22. Then again like I said at end of day its bout writting bout creativty and who didthebest.
    yeah, i'm saying dont restrict by companies... there is no catch 22 there.

    edit: just to be clear, im not trying to be an ass to wolf beast/keefmoon. i was just pointing one of the things i disliked more about these tournaments. most people in this tournament dont seem to have concerns and im not in the tournament so its all irrelevant.

  18. #38
    Curtain Jerker

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    16
    Rep Power
    0

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    So just to understand how this coming together of minds works, if you don't have extensive knowledge of current WWE affairs you are going to struggle?

  19. #39
    I’m Not Booked!
    Keefmoon's Avatar

    Status
    Offline
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    United Kingdom
    Posts
    922
    Rep Power
    572286

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Snow View Post
    edit: just to be clear, im not trying to be an ass to wolf beast/keefmoon. i was just pointing one of the things i disliked more about these tournaments. most people in this tournament dont seem to have concerns and im not in the tournament so its all irrelevant.
    All good, dude.

    I hope Wolfy doesn't mind me stepping in while he's busy at work, but from my perspective this is meant to be a bit of fun, so feedback on how to make it as interesting and enjoyable as possible is of course hugely helpful. I really am trying to stay tight-lipped on what future rounds will entail (otherwise anyone who hasn't read this back-and-forth is at a disadvantage, and that isn't fair), but the feedback has 100% been taken on board.

    And if anyone is reading this and concerned that their lack of knowledge of any part of wrestling (not just 2019 WWE) will be of detriment to them in this particular competition and it's making them think twice about entering, let me and/or Wolf Beast know and hopefully we can put you at ease.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSmilingDM View Post
    So just to understand how this coming together of minds works, if you don't have extensive knowledge of current WWE affairs you are going to struggle?
    Absolutely not.

    I don't really watch current day WWE, so I crowbarred all of my entries last year to be set in the past (the random match pairing I got was Rhyno and Eric Young, so I set it in TNA in 2006, which coincidentally Shade did as well). This is just a bit of fun which challenges you creatively. I'm confident that someone who is a strong writer and storyteller, and who has a creative mind, will be able to succeed regardless of their tastes.

    That said, it would obviously be of benefit if you actually like wrestling

  20. #40
    WWF- 1991 And Beyond
    BattleTank's Avatar

    Status
    Online
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Parts Unknown
    Posts
    396
    Rep Power
    229140
      Country                    United States

    Re: The 2019 King Of Be The Booker Tournament

    I don't think I will be participating this year. Still struggling to get through the massive Summerslam I've decided to book. I highly doubt I'd be able to pump something of quality out for the tournament. However, Wolf Beast, Keef and Zoom-E, if you guys need any help with the grading or anything, feel free to hit me up. I'd be glad to help out.

    Also, good luck to everyone in the tournament, just from the list of names thus far it looks like it will be a banger! I look forward to reading this.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •