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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    That time period for Nash was my favorite of his career. From losing the WWE Title at Survivor Series 95 until when he left the WWE in the spring of 1996, he was really an early preview of an Attitude Era character. Everything that was lacking during his WWE World Title reign was now suddenly there again.
    Yep. Diesel's attitude once he lost the title was terrific. He played the role of the tweener which turned into a heel so well, and it really is a shame that he left when he did. Whilst the NWO obviously did big business for him, this was easily his best character work like you said.

    I'd argue that the Michaels/Diesel match at In Your House Good Friends, Better Enemies in April '96 was probably the best match of his career as well. As a kid who didn't really understand the wrestling business at the time, and liked all the faces and hated all the heels, I couldn't help but think this version of Diesel was cool as hell.








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    Match Eleven – The Fantastics vs. Alan Martin and Keith Steinborn (NWA Championship Wrestling, April 2nd, 1988)

    Coming off their recent loss to The Midnight Express, this one really is just a showcase for The Fantastics. I think Martin and Steinborn land something like four punches and that’s their total offense for the match, as Bobby Fulton and Tommy Rogers dominate. For a showcase match such as this, they probably made it as good as they could, with The Fantastics using a mix of double team moves and their own stuff to dominate.

    There was one particular funny botch where Fulton and Rogers were on the top rope at separate corners of the ring, and they leap up for a Double Dropkick, however Rogers is way too late, and his Dropkick misses everybody by a long way. He didn’t look to happy about it when he stomped back to the corner either. The other key mention here is that The Fantastics have taped up wrists, arms and nose, selling the impact of their match with The Midnight Express.

    In the end, they pick up their win with the Fantastic Rocket Launcher before cutting a promo telling The Midnight Express that they are still standing. Talent enhancement match here so I won’t give it an actual rating, but this definitely did the job it needed to, and I thoroughly enjoyed getting the opportunity to watch some more old school wrestling.








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    Match Twelve – Los Boricuas vs. Too Much (Raw 275, September 5th, 1998)

    This match was surprisingly one of the lengthier matches on this show. Considering this was the episode where Undertaker and Kane were destroying everybody to prove a point to McMahon, I completely expected this match to get interrupted, but instead we got a full match. I always liked Christopher and Taylor as a team, yet I always hated Los Boricuas. This really was a showcase for Too Much, no storyline attached, and they dominated a majority of the contest. Los Boricuas got about 30 seconds of offense in which included 3 Dropkicks, a Clothesline and a hot tag, until Miguel was pinning Taylor, but with the referee distracted, Christopher landed a Leg Drop across the back of Miguel’s neck, allowing Taylor to get the win.

    As much as I enjoy Too Much for their chemistry more so then their in ring ability, I never got behind Los Boricuas and this entire match considering both teams standings on the card at this point, made me struggle to care. Pretty dull stuff, I’d probably only give this one star.

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    Match 13 – The Revolution vs. The West Texas Rednecks (WCW Road Wild, 13th August, 1999)

    So this match saw The Revolution which consists of Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko and Shane Douglas taking on The West Texas Rednecks which consists of Curt Hennig, Bobby Duncum Jr. and Barry Windham. The story of The Revolution was that they were held back talent banding together because they wanted title shots and opportunities. It’s quite funny considering Saturn and Malenko would be gone within six months, hinting to the fact that they really weren’t getting any decent opportunities anyway.

    The match is pretty standard with the faces starting off on fire, the heels have their period of domination and then the faces come back. The best period of this match was when the heels were in control. Hennig and co. cheated quote often and effectively, especially with the help of Kendall on the outside of the ring. Its basic heelish tactics but they were performed perfectly throughout the contest, and at least made the pay off and the hot tag something I wanted to see. On a side note, the disappointing thing would probably be that the crowd really didn’t seem all that interested in this one.

    It makes sense that the crowd wouldn’t be that into it as the video package showed that the build behind this match was pretty generic. My favourite spot throughout the whole match was probably when Shane Douglas had Hennig up for a Back Suplex, but drove him groin first into the ring post outside of the ring. Eventually Saturn, who seems to be the one who was being pushed out of The Revolution gets a hot tag and beats the hell out of everybody. Kendall tries to interfere again but The Revolution takes care of him before Saturn nails Duncum Jr. with the Death Valley Driver for the victory.

    This match was nothing special but I just really enjoyed it for the fact that the heels did a tremendous job when they were in charge, which made the babyface comeback worth watching.

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    Match 14 – Big Show vs. Prince Albert (Raw 335, October 25th, 1999)

    This match was more of an angle than anything else. Before I get into what actually happened in this match, it’s crazy to think in the space of 8 months, Big Show has gone from the all conquering, dominating giant to almost directionless until this mid card angle with Bossman took over. Also, whilst some of the content during this feud was pretty full on, Bossman played his part very well. Props to him for that. In this match, Prince Albert confronted Show backstage and said he wanted to challenge himself, however he made it clear he wasn’t the Bossman.

    Show dominated until Bossman appeared with a family heirloom, threatening to smash it with a hammer. Show makes his way towards Bossman, only for Albert to attack him… Show takes care of Albert but then turns into a hammer to the head from Bossman, which sends Show tumbling off of the stage. To add insult to injury, Bossman then destroys the pocket watch anyway.

    This one isn’t getting a star rating because it wasn’t much of a match, but I enjoyed the hell out of this particular segment. Bits of the Show/Bossman sick daddy angle were WAY over the top, for example the funeral segment, however this was a lot simpler and a lot more effective. Bossman is the biggest villain in the world after this, fun stuff.








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    I don't want to admit how long it took me to realise why they called him Prince Albert

    I've never checked out his work in New Japan, apparently it's his best stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    I don't want to admit how long it took me to realise why they called him Prince Albert

    I've never checked out his work in New Japan, apparently it's his best stuff.


    I'd recommend his Bad Intentions run with Karl Anderson. Easily my favourite part of his career in any part of the world.








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    Bad Intentions is a rare time period where I actually enjoyed watching Karl Anderson too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Bad Intentions is a rare time period where I actually enjoyed watching Karl Anderson too.
    Whilst I preferred Bad Intentions, you didn't enjoy his Bullet Club run? I still thought it was rather solid. I think I have a soft spot for him to because he's just a tag team specialist, and I feel like we don't get enough of them anymore.

    I'd openly admin that his WWE run has been pretty underwhelming, but again, he hasn't exactly been booked in a way that has given him a chance to succeed.








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    Match 15 – Jeff Jarrett and Steve ‘Mongo’ McMichael w/Debra vs. Public Enemy (Spring Stampede, April 6th, 1997)

    There was no real heat between these two teams heading in, the angle was all about whether Jarrett and McMichael can get along as part of The Horsemen after a rocky few weeks. They started off well however there was a part of the match where Jarrett was being dominated so he walked towards the back, utilised the ref’s ten count and then came back to continue. This is standard heel time wasting/momentum halting however the commentator’s sold it as if Jarrett was not communicating with McMichael and threatening to walk out on him… Which was strange.

    There was a nice moment where the two did communicate well and they did the strut together which was fun. It’s crazy how much younger Debra looks here, compared to when she would debut for the WWF a year and a half later, funnily enough with Jarrett as well. There were strange spots throughout this match that didn’t really come together well. McMichael and Jarrett had a collision after an Atomic Drop, yet Mongo was standing in the ring for no particular reason. Mongo baited the illegal Public Enemy member when he was just about to make a pin to on the other one. It really just felt like logic had been completely switched off on this one, so that plus the lack of heat made this not very enjoyable.

    Considering Public Enemy can only put on fun brawls and don’t really have good ‘wrestling’ matches, there is a large part of the match which is a brawl, with WCW using that terrible split screen feature which killed me. Still, Jarrett’s shitty outfit, and the three other guys being pretty average in the ring made this one hard to watch. Add in the hard to explain moments throughout, and this was downright terrible. Public Enemy get the win when Jarrett has the Figure Four however Mongo won’t get out of the ring and distracts the ref, allowing PE to hit Jarrett with the briefcase before getting the win. Terrible stuff.

    ½*
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    Match 16 – The New Day vs. Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns (Raw 1184, February 1st, 2016)

    I have to admit I was a little disappointed with the quality of match I got out of this one. The New Day can usually put on a decent contest as can Ambrose and even Reigns on his day, but this definitely wasn’t one of those. The most entertaining part of this was the prê match promo from The New Day, where they spent a majority of the time running down The Rock. Also, Birmingham = Bootyham.

    The actual match just felt like a really phoned in performance. It was clear from some segments earlier in the night that The Authority was trying to drive a wedge between Reigns and Ambrose, as they were heading into a Triple Threat match against Brock Lesnar at Fastlane. There was no rift between the two in this one though, as they teamed well and got the win when Ambrose pinned Big E after a Dirty Deeds DDT. Xavier woods should be commended for his outside the ring antics as Big E and Kofi were the competing members.

    Again, phoned in performance that didn’t really look as if anybody was trying. Slow, plodding along, boring, and not even any really good false finishes or teamwork. No heat behind the match either, just no good.

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    Match 17 – Rob Van Dam (c) vs. Mike Lozansky (ECW Hardcore TV, December 5th, 1998)

    The biased fan in me wants to say this was awesome because it’s an ECW match, but realistically that’s not the case. However nothing beats an amped up crowd and I’d argue at this point in time, the ECW fans didn’t get as excited for anybody other than Rob Van Dam. The match itself was pretty much a champion’s showcase match for Van Dam, with the spotlight on RVD to make the champion look like a million bucks. With that being said, Lozansky did get quite a bit offense in and landed a couple of really nice reversals to, such as reversing a Mule Kick and connecting with a Spinning Heel Kick, and turning a Van Daminator into a Facebuster onto the steel chair.

    As with standard ECW matches, there were several periods of the match where both men beat the shit out of each other on the outside of the ring as well. Come to think of it, Lozansky actually got a lot more offense in than I initially gave him credit for. Still, this was RVD’s show and he managed to get through his entire move list throughout the match, including Van Daminator, Discus Leg Drop off the apron, Rolling Thunder, Five Star Frog Splash and Split Legged Moonsault. He picks up the win and looks like a dominant champion in the process.

    Now my issue with a lot of these ECW showcase matches that don’t actually have any heat behind them is the lack psychology and selling, which makes them all feel like giant spot fests. These two things probably stop this match from being a lot better than what it could have been but I still thought it did the job required without being offensive to watch.

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    Match 18 – The Rock and Rob Van Dam vs. Kurt Angle and Lance Storm (Smackdown 123, December 27th, 2001)

    Seeing as how The Rock was my favourite wrestler growing up, I was excited to see him on the list, and I was even more excited to see him be accompanied by RVD, Angle and Storm. I pretty much dig all four of these guys so was expecting a pretty good match. So the background for this one is that Rock and Angle hate each other because they always have, but the added heat is due to them competing in a Championship match with Chris Jericho on Raw. On the other side of things, Storm is mad at RVD because Van Dam called Storm Jericho’s messenger boy.

    The match itself was a standard weekly tag team match on a Smackdown. Nobody pulled out anything amazing, but they did a good job of initially teasing Rock/Angle, only for Storm to then start the match. Storm and Angle were effective as a team, isolating both The Rock and RVD for a little, and the tease of Rocky about to get his hands on Angle, only for Storm to perform a low bridge was awesome.

    The tease of the false finish with RVD getting a visual pin over Angle after the Five Star Frog Splash, only to be interrupted by Storm was a nice touch. And the ending once The Rock got back in was academic, finishing off Storm with The People’s Elbow. My only concern here is probably that the heels never really looked like winning, whereas the faces had numerous times where they could have won. They seemed to be saving a Rock/Angle meeting for later on here, which never really came to fruition. The match itself was a solid weekly show tag match, with an added bit of an enjoyment because I like all the guys involved. Also there was a clean finish here and it felt like that rarely happened with any weekly matches involving big names at this time. I wouldn’t recommend this as a must watch or anything but I sure did enjoy it.

    **1/4
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    Trying to place this one date wise, I'm guessing early 2002? Storm got a win over Rock (thanks to Test) to get his job back and RVD had just failed to win the WWE Title from Jericho around then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Trying to place this one date wise, I'm guessing early 2002? Storm got a win over Rock (thanks to Test) to get his job back and RVD had just failed to win the WWE Title from Jericho around then.

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    Editing the post with date now, not sure why I forgot. It was Smackdown, December 27th, 2001 and yeah this was just after RVD failed to win the belt.








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    Match 19 – The Outsiders vs. Sting and Lex Luger (WCW Monday Nitro #48, August 12th, 1996

    I was immediately excited to watch this one, not necessarily for work rate but because during this time period, the wrestling industry was buzzing about the NWO. To make things even a little more exciting here, this was a historic night, as it was the Monday Nitro in ring debut of both Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. Whilst it wasn’t a huge deal, with the NWO being relatively fresh at this stage, Bischoff and Heenan did a huge job of selling the NWO jerking everybody around when they didn’t show up for their entrance on time. It turns out they just came through the crowd? Why? Not really sure. But because they just do what they please, it was kind of bad ass anyway.

    Luger was out by himself to start the match and Sting was nowhere to be found, until Sting snuck in later, because WCW had a plan of attack as well. The match itself was over very quickly and was just a big brawl if I’m honest. Work rate wasn’t the key but referee Nick Patrick revealed himself as on the NWO payroll, by helping Hall avoid a Stinger Splash. Before shit can get out of hand, The Horsemen roll up and the NWO flee through the audience. This hyped Hogan/Flair whilst also giving the idea that The Outsider’s would have to deal with The Horsemen as well.

    A fun main event for the sake of everything around it, but not a technical classic. A big brawl that I’ll probably only give one start because it only lasted 4 minutes, but it did everything it needed to.

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    Match 20 – Mark Jindrak vs. Rob Van Dam (Smackdown #255, July 8th, 2004)

    I was always somewhat of a fan of Mark Jindrak, and I get my third RVD match from my last four; I’m pretty happy with this. This match opened the show however before the match began, Rene Dupree made his way out to join Tazz and Michael Cole on commentary. As he is on his way down the ramp, with his ugly looking dog Fifi, they show a replay of last week, where RVD nailed Dupree with a Five Star Frog Splash only for Booker T to steal the pin and become the number one contender for John Cena’s US Championship.

    Once the actual competitors make their way to the ring, Jindrak attacks RVD from behind and immediately rams his back into the crowd barricade. ‘The Reflection of Perfection’ dominates RVD for a majority of this match, with really solid, focused offense on the back. The highlight of his offense would have to be cutting off an RVD comeback, when Van Dam leaps to the top rope, and from the canvas, Jindrak leaps with an impressive Dropkick which sends RVD crashing into the crowd barricade. Damn, Jindrak had some athleticism for a guy his size.

    Highlight of the match in terms of commentary would have to be Dupree’s line of “Nobody gets higher than RVD”. Made me chuckle. Anyway, eventually RVD comes back with a few of his patented moves, before Jindrak regains the advantage by getting his knees up during an attempted Rolling Thunder. Again, another move that goes right back to the injured back of RVD which I enjoyed throughout. Jindrak looks for a Back Suplex from the top rope; however RVD knocks him off and finishes him with a Split Legged Moonsault. Refreshing to see a WWE RVD win not have to end with the Five Star Frog Splash.

    After the match, Dupree looks shitty on commentary as RVD celebrates. Again, never going to be a MOTYC but I really thought they did a good job with this one for what it was. Solid to good match.

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    That sounds like it over-delivered.

    I didn't realise until literally last week what Jindrak has had this long ass career in Mexico and I've just never heard about him being down there. I just assumed he quit the business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    That sounds like it over-delivered.
    See, I just assumed that Stojy liked it way more than literally everyone else. Admittedly, it does make me curious to see the match solely because I can't imagine it's anything special.

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    I've always been a fan of Jindrak, Ed. I'd highly recommend checking out some of his Mexico stuff.

    And Jim, you're right on the money. This is definitely me liking this match more than anybody else . My idea behind the rating was not because this was a classic match or a recommendable match, but I'd argue that it did everything it needed to almost flawlessly.

    It wasn't supposed to be a 5 star classic, it was a show opener. Not only that, but it was simply there to get RVD a win, whilst allow Dupree to talk shit on commentary. It all worked but due to the dominance Jindrak had in the early stages, it helped him as well. Plus, the back work and then focusing on it again towards the end of the match showed smart ring work.

    The main reason this got 3 stars is because for me, 3 stars is a good match, and in essence, this might be lesser quality then a lot of stuff, but for what it needed to be, this was a good match. It's nowhere near a 4 or 5 star recommendable match, but I usually dish out 1 and 2 star ratings when I find some things glaringly wrong with the match. I didn't find that here so I thought a 3 was fair. However I'm sure there would be plenty of people who disagree but this was my thought process behind the rating.








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