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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    It totally is but what choice to they have?

    Where does everyone keep getting the whole Cobb is only in ROH for NJPW. Im actually curious

    Totally agree on the NJPW deal. I hated it once it got to 2016. NJPW almost always came out on top.

    I'm totally diggin:

    Haskins and Tracey Williams are future stars of the company. Same with Bandido. I enjoy all 3 of the guys over RUSH since hes being booked so well right now.

    They also have Lethal and the Briscoes who are mega stars for the company. Though i don't care for him so is Castle.

    Plus there's Scurll, Taven, taylor, Flip and Gresham who are all great. Coast 2 Coast are also a good tag team. Silas Young can have a good match with anyone.
    I doubt Bandido stays past his 1 year contract honestly. Marty is also 100% AEW bound, it makes sense too since his contract is conveniently up October 1st.

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    Ring Of Honor has a fine roster and I'll watch the most praised matches but there is hardly anything that grabs me and makes me want to tune in past one match on that show. That's what they need to do. Make people care about the guys in top spots in the company, that's what they need to do. Compelling feuds as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MC 16 View Post
    Ring Of Honor has a fine roster and I'll watch the most praised matches but there is hardly anything that grabs me and makes me want to tune in past one match on that show. That's what they need to do. Make people care about the guys in top spots in the company, that's what they need to do. Compelling feuds as well.
    Its funny because i do that with all wrestling...its actually way more enjoyable to watch praised matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post
    Well of course im talking about within the realm of ROH but also in wrestling. Wrestling fans know who the Briscoes are. Same with lethal

    None of my friends know anyone in WWE or wrestling for that matter. The only place i hear about those wrestlers are here.

    Bully hasnt been on a show for a while. And while there is shit on their show , there's shit on all shows.

    Women matches are my bathroom breaks or joint breaks. Thats for all wrestling.

    I like Taven enough and they took a risk with him. Hes actually underrated. Taylor just recently won me over. Try and find his match vs Cobb
    Just wanted to be sure. But I still believe that The Briscoes are past their point of being draws or generating much interest for the average fan. Lethal feels a little stale but he can still wrestle his ass off so I think he'll maintain the level of star power he has but I don't see him getting any bigger. Taven doesn't do anything for me, to where I want to cheer for him or boo him, or ever remark at his talent. He's basically just there. Taylor has his appeal as he can do things not expected of him but again, he is just so uninspiring to me, especially as a character. I have seen him wrestle Cobb at the 17th Anniversay Show, not sure if they've faced more than once, but even so it didn't really shift my perception of him. Nonetheless, I would just say that ROH isn't bad by any means. I enjoy when I watch their supercards. But they just don't wow me like they would in the 2000s and early 2010s, and they also don't have many characters that pull me in, thus they are low priority in terms of what I watch.

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    Re: Ring Of Honor General Discussion Thread

    If anything, it's the behind the scenes that's more of a problem than the roster itself but it's still rough watching a lot of their shows because of how dry it feels. To me they're like a perennial 9th/10th seed in NBA. They can keep hanging on and being okay hoping to get to the playoffs and that's it, but if they ever wanna make a real difference then they need to blow everything up. That should have honestly happened 2 years ago because anyone could see where backing NJPW & The Elite so heavily was going to lead. If it were me, EVERYONE from then would have been gone and then they were still a somewhat destination as de facto #2 US company, now absolutely nobody would choose them over AEW & it's going to be extremely hard to rebuild with how things are which is why they're going with the peak TNA-esque vision with Taven as champion and Bully Ray having so much power.

    I think they should at least form an identity of their own to go with. If they want to have fliers, you have PJ Black, Bandido, Isom, all the CMLL guys. Build around that style and push a high impact style. Technically wrestling? They have great guys like Gresham and Hot Sauce, again CMLL guys. Power guys? Taylor, (Provided he's ROH Cobb) Cobb, Woods. Brawling? PCO, Rush, The Briscoes. Just pick what you want ROH to be, because right now they're a company without vision and they don't bring anything unique to wrestling at the moment. The Kingdom getting this push was a mistake, but really that MSG show was such a disaster that I think that hurt them more than that specifically, attendance has tanked since then and I think that show had a lot to do with it. But they definitely need to have a shift in their atmosphere and just tone they have as a company because it's just not a good look right now, even if they have solid matches. That's just not enough in 2019 with the market being so strong for great wrestling.

    Also RE: The Briscoes, they're likely the only people in ROH that I feel confident WOULD be stars if they left or to average fans.


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    Re: Ring Of Honor General Discussion Thread

    Show was good! Sleeping guy completely ruined the entire Taven/Shelley match which is a bummer to me because I was really excited for Shelley. You could tell Shelley was frustrated in the ring because 80-90% of the match, the fans were chanting for the guy shit-faced out of his mind and sleeping.

    Gresham/Lethal vs Bandido/Haskins, the Lucha 6-Man Tag, and the Briscoes/G.O.D Ladder War were the best matches of the night. The women's match was hot garbage, and I don't get for Taylor, nor the guy he was facing for the TV title. Seeing Marty replace Silas was really cool too.

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    Re: Ring Of Honor General Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Raye View Post
    Show was good! Sleeping guy completely ruined the entire Taven/Shelley match which is a bummer to me because I was really excited for Shelley. You could tell Shelley was frustrated in the ring because 80-90% of the match, the fans were chanting for the guy shit-faced out of his mind and sleeping.

    Gresham/Lethal vs Bandido/Haskins, the Lucha 6-Man Tag, and the Briscoes/G.O.D Ladder War were the best matches of the night. The women's match was hot garbage, and I don't get for Taylor, nor the guy he was facing for the TV title. Seeing Marty replace Silas was really cool too.
    I watched a few matches last night. I read the sleeping fan was hammered beyond belief.

    Haskins and Bandido vs Lethal and Gresham.

    Great match with the underlining story with Gresham turning into a prick. Haskins and Bandido were off the hook as usual. Bandido finisher is the bomb
    ****

    Taylor vs Williams

    Good match where Williams played the undedog due to his shoulder and Taylor beating on it. Cant wait for Flip vs Williams.

    ***1/4

    6 man

    Balls to the wall. Great stuff. Its basically what youd expect

    *** 1/2 - ***3/4

    Briscoes vs GOD

    Insane ladder War. Match was violent as fuck. I have never seen GOD before this feud. And based on their matches vs Briscoes, they are awesome. Tons of memorable spots and it was match of the night.

    ****1/2

    Ill check out Taven vs Shelley later. It was getting late when i watvhed it last night so i had to pick between the ladder war or tavens defense.

    Based on these matches, show seemed pretty awesome.

    Theres a picture floating around showing crowd size. It looked small but then another picture hit the net, and it showed a bigger crowd.

    Briscoes vs GOD has delivered and i hope gets nods for feud of the year.

    Looks like you saw a pretty great show Raye.
    Last edited by indyfan; 08-11-2019 at 08:23 AM.
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    Who or what is sleeping fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Who or what is sleeping fan?
    Some super drunk guy fell asleep in the first row. From some fans reports he was hammered even before he got into the show. Probably kept drinking and then passed out. He was escorted out. Probably for the best. Imagine he started throwing up on the people sitting beside him. Lol

    It reminds me when i watched a Pantera vhs back in the day and some fan fell asleep and they stopped the show to wake her up.

    Edit: Theres claims the sleeping fan had medical issue.
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    Sorry for the double post

    Briscoes are the bomb check this promo before the ladder war

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1159288373661577217
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    Nah he didn't have a medical issue, some guy started a bs rumour on reddit, it's not true though. He was hammered since the start of the show. He took over the last match unintentionally because he was sleeping and everyone started chanting wake him up and all sorts of other shit throughout the entirety of Shelley vs Taven. Basically more than half the people there did not care about the actual World Title match as opposed to black out drunk Tyler1 lookalike.

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    Villain Enterprises vs. Lifeblood & Black was a fun main event this week, I do like some faction warfare. They could easily run this feud all the way to Final Battle but Scurll will be long gone by then so probably won't. Maybe Flip takes over as VE lead with Black joining them, who knows?

    SOS match was a squash, but they have a good look so I'm content to wait for more.

    That's all for this weeks ep tbh. Spent all last week hyping the Summer Supercard to then not mention it once this week. Frustrating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Villain Enterprises vs. Lifeblood & Black was a fun main event this week, I do like some faction warfare. They could easily run this feud all the way to Final Battle but Scurll will be long gone by then so probably won't. Maybe Flip takes over as VE lead with Black joining them, who knows?

    SOS match was a squash, but they have a good look so I'm content to wait for more.

    That's all for this weeks ep tbh. Spent all last week hyping the Summer Supercard to then not mention it once this week. Frustrating.


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    Was that the street fight? Because if it was....that wasn't this weeks episode.

    Edit: sorry im wrong. I watched that match before , when it aired on the website from Manhattan Mayhem. And yes it was fantastic

    This was Blacks best match in ROH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfan View Post

    This was Blacks best match in ROH.
    Not the strongest endorsement when there's seven other men involved and he's in the bottom half of those who stood out haha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Postman Dave View Post
    Not the strongest endorsement when there's seven other men involved and he's in the bottom half of those who stood out haha.


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    Oh i agree but still worth noting. Im actually surprised he got the pin
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    Roh did horrible attendance wise again this weekend. They need to fire Delirious asap.

    If i was them....Rush Destroys Taven for the belt and feuds with Cobb over it until Final Battle pr anniversary show.

    Lifeblood vs VE needs to end soon too . Haskins and Tracy should be going after tag titles and Bandido going after Tv title
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    What is Delirious even doing anymore besides getting Bully Ray coffee?

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    Whoever is in charge should try and change the direction or the company should think about changing the bookers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    What is Delirious even doing anymore besides getting Bully Ray coffee?
    I think he is still in charge of creative along with Bully Ray. They need a fresh perspective
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    Is Delirious still booking himself over the talent in his occasional appearances?

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