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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    The Cavani one is rumoured to be £10m in wages and £10m to the agent. He'll either do a Zlatan and nail it for 18 months or he'll do a Falcao. As for the Sancho deal, I don't see it happening, but a RW is still needed. As for the LB I can see why we wouldn't want to pay £18m or so for Telles when in 3 month we can get him for a free for the next season.
    That's exactly it.

    I have faith he'll be better than Falcao. He won't be starting as regularly as Zlatan I don't think so probably won't do quite as well. He's essentially going to be an upgrade on Ighalo really as I suspect we won't sign him permanently when his loan ends now that we have Cavani on the books.
    I suspected that the wages and behind the scenes fees would be about that. It's a lot, but I'm trying to focus on the fact we got him for a free transfer. I just pray that he is a Zlatan and not a Falcao!
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    I think that is the thing, he'll do a lot better than Ighalo whatever happens. Plus with all the fixtures coming so fast in a short space of time quality is needed on the pitch and it allows us to rest Martial properly. We still need a RW so that needs sorting in the next 36 hours or we won't be getting far, and top 4 will be a struggle.
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    What. The. Fuck.

    We fired Gunnersaurus today. 27 years as our mascot and we fire him to save some money.

    Which we are using to go after Partey. Who was APPARENTLY our #1 choice all window, but Atletico wouldn't negotiate. So we made them aware we are going to activate his 50m release. And APPARENTLY we have withdrawn the loan deal for Torreira, since they refused to include a purchase clause, which is possibly part of why we couldn't afford to the Aouar deal. We could be fucking Atletico over pretty hard here, which is interesting because it very much looked like they were fucking us over not that long ago.
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    Glad they are being called out on such a shitty decision. Honestly They've saved what, £20-30k from the annual wage bill (being very generous at that). You could literally cover it by shaving £1k of all the senior team player annual wage multimillion pound wages. Its wasn't even worth the bad press.

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    The Whole thing is even more ridiculous when you remember that the players DID take a wage cut to stop job cuts....



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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    I would imagine the gamesmanship from Arsenal will see them seal Partey within this 4 hour deadline, which in turn will see Lucas join Atletico on loan. Still horrid behaviour either way.

    More shit from Man Utd, which is to be expected when nothing changes at the top. Telles and Cavani will paper over what is really needed. We need that proven RW. Sancho isn't happening like we've all known for weeks, and Dembele...well some are saying it could happen, some are saying it won't....don't worry about the two 18 year olds, focus on a ready made player sheesh.

    Oh and in January, with United signing these younger wingers, Dan James will no doubt be shipped off to Leeds.
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    Just in case anyone is forgetful, Arsenal have a billionaire owner who reuses to put any money into the club. Its lovely to see the club completely abandoning its ideals and any last residue of being classy. Fucking atrocious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldrick View Post
    I would imagine the gamesmanship from Arsenal will see them seal Partey within this 4 hour deadline, which in turn will see Lucas join Atletico on loan. Still horrid behaviour either way.
    Horrid behavior by us or by Atletico?

    Saw a nice summary on Reddit on what seems to have happened.

    Partey was supposedly our #1 all along. We tried to negotiate with Atletico and they said nope, pay the release clause. Which was theoretically our intent all along after Atletico's refused to negotiate (not sure I buy that). We started putting outgoings in place - Emi Martinez, Mhitaryan (wages only). We had Torreira lined up to go to Italy (where he was apparently desperate to go back to), and possibly Kolasinac to Bayern, Sokratis to Napoli, and Mustafi to Lazio. Sokratis to Lazio fell through since Lazio decided to keep Koulibaly, as that was their replacement (haha). We started to think we might have extra funds and Aouar looked to be available for basically half of what he should have been. We went after him, theoretically not instead of Partey but in addition to Partey (again, not sure I buy it). We couldn't reach the valuation that Lyon had for Auoar, especially as Atletico fucked us over with Torreira.

    When they heard he was available, Simeone personally called him. So he refused to move on the already-negotiated deals to Italy. Madrid only. Except Atletico weren't willing to buy. They weren't willing to pay a big loan fee. They weren't willing to include a mandatory purchase clause. So they basically fucked us over by tapping up the player, if the reports are accurate.

    Our payment to Atletico apparently happened without any officially notification to the club. We just officially activated the release clause without telling them. Dick move, as would be cancelling the Torreira loan. But the latter kinda makes sense - if we couldn't land either Partey or Auoer, sending out Torreira would leave us light in the middle. I'm not a fan of the behavior on this if both parts are accurate, but it bothers me less since it was in response to Madrid being dicks in the first place. telling a player to come, and then refusing to meet the previously-agreed conditions is the kind of dickbag move that Barcelona and Real Madrid do and get away with.

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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    So we've ended up signing Van de Beek, Telles, Cavani, Pellistri and Traore, though he's not coming until January.

    VDB, Telles and Cavani are good signings on the face of things.
    Solskjear seems to be hinting that Cavani is going to be more than just backup. To be fair, I think that means that Cavani gives us more freedom rest our first choice front three, as I still expect us to go with Rashford, Greenwood and Martial when everyone's fit. Unless that is he really hits it off. Then I could easily see us starting him. But it's a big if at this point. Not many players can come to the Premier League at 33 (nearly 34) and light the place on fire.

    VDB should already be starting IMO. You don't pay £40m and then sit him on the bench, bringing him on for the last 5 mins of games as he's been dong so far. Start him with Pogpa and Fernandes in midfield. He wants to play, he'd dynamic, he has the ability to give us another edge.

    I'm intrigued by Telles. His stats for Porto are great so it will be great if he can translate that to the Premier League. I was dubious about Bruno being able to translate his ability from Portugal to England but he managed it. If Telles does the same then that would be amazing.
    It will be interesting to see what his signing means for the future of Shaw and indeed Brandon Williams. Williams of course can play RB as well as LB so his future seems ok as he can cover AWB and cover the left. Shaw however must be sweating. He's got the potential to be a fantastic LB but we've been waiting years now for him to really fullfil that potential. Perhaps Telles coming in will give him the kick he needs, but I can see him being relegated to the bench to be honest.

    Traore isn't coming until January but is clearly a signing for the future so he's not going to be playing first team football for a while.
    Pellistri is an intruguing one. He's also surely one for the future, but, as we haven't signed another winger could he be thrust into the first team? I don't see why not to be hoenst. He's young, hungry, why not give the lad a chance? He can't do any worse thant he current squad.

    We've also had some outgoings.
    Andreas Pereira to Lazio on loan with option to buy. Happy with this. I like him and think he's a good player, but he's clearly not quite good enough at the moment to play for a top Premier League team.
    Tahith Chong has gone to Weder Bremen on loan. Good move for him, though with us not bringing in a winger you ahve to wonder if he would have had a shot at more first team football at United had he stayed.
    Chris Smalling has gone to Roma on a permanent deal. Out of the surpluss defenders we have Smalling is the best one and we've sold him. I guess in the end we had to just get rid of whoever we could to lower our wage bill, but I'm disappointed that he's gone while we've retained Jones and Rojo, neither of who are likely to play for us anytime soon unless we have a major injury crisis.
    Diogo Dalot has gone to AC Milan on loan. With us bringing in Telles I guess we now have him and Shaw at LB and then AWB and Williams to cover RB. I like Dalot a lot, but I guess Ole doesn't fancy him over the other options we have.

    Some dead wood moved on at least, though mostly on loan so little in the way of permanent outgoings. Not great really.

    I'm also very disappointed in the club in failing to move on Sergio Romero. He's seemingly being relegated to 4th choice now as he's behind De Gea, Henderson and Grant (given that Grant has been on the bench for the Carabao Cup games so far this season). Very poor treatment of a guy who's been nothing but class for us. His stats for United speak for themselves. They should have made more effort in moving him on as I can't believe for one second that there was no interest in his services. He'll likely lose his #1 spot for Argentina permanently now too due to Emiliano Martinez moving to Villa and playing regular.

    Also Lingardinho is still on the books -_-
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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    I think the reason Romero didn't move is one...Ed wanted something like £10m for a 33 year old and two his wages. There's no other reason. That is why we are still stuck with the likes of Jones & Rojo...neither are wanted by Ole but are on silly wages and would want those matched to move on. More stupid moves if you ask me.

    As for the window...I'm not as mad as a lot of people are. I accepted in August Sancho wouldn't happen as there was no way we would be spending £108m on one player, when for that money we've signed VDB, Cavani, Telles, Pellistri and Traore, and still got change left over. Chelsea only spent as much as they did as they had that £100m+ from the Hazrd sale in their pockets already.

    VDB should be starting ahead of Pogba at the moment. For whatever reason Pogba isn't at the races right now, whilst VDB is, so play Matic, VDB and Bruno as your three in the middle of the park.

    The Cavani transfer is one that offers a few different options. Firstly he is a proven goalscorer, secondly he works his socks off every game, thirdly he gives us the option of resting Tony, and finally it's an option of changing shape. Sure his wages are sky high for a 33 year old but for a 12/24 month deal, if he can score like we know he can we'll be laughing.

    I don't see Telles starting ahead of Shaw against the bigger sides, unless Ole goes 532. Telles will start a lot more against the teams that will sit deep and want us to break them down.

    Pellestri is the one that intrests me. Came highly rated by a certain Diego Forlan, so let's see what he can do, same with Traore when he joins in January.
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    I've said it before, but from a neutral perspective, the Manchester United "pursuit" of Sancho has been high comedy. Read a report today that a panicked United executive called a Dortmund counterpart after the announcement by Watzke on August 6 that Sancho would be staying to confirm they really meant it, and the Dortmund executive said they did. So despite the CEO making public statements and the club having it confirmed behind the scenes, United still thought they would have the upper hand. And every indication is still that United never lodged an official bid so their approach with this "chase" was to simply.... wait. And talk to the media a bunch. But mostly just wait.

    I'm not gonna lie to you gents, I genuinely hope that Ed Woodward never leaves you.

    Telles is a good signing. Not quite what some United fans are apparently making him out to be, but really solid attacking player. Less solid defensively, and possibly to the point of being a liability. His numbers in Portugal were strong... but its also Portugal. He's a Brazilian fullback through and through - in both the very positive and very negative sense.

    So Partey happened. I'm happy but not massively excited. That will probably change once I see him in action and he could change one of the weakest parts of the squad. He has that athleticism much of our midfield lacks but he's also dynamic. Very capable defensively but equally an attacking force. Which is why some Gooners are calling him the new Viera. I'll just be happy if he's Partey for us.

    I don't love the way we did it. Not notifying Atletico might be justifiable but honestly.... its just kinda classless. We used to be a better club than that. Seeing a bunch of Gooners trolling over it on Reddit and such also left a sour taste. And tons of us on social media hijacking every Partey news bit with "Now Aouar".... like settle the fuck down.

    The lack of outgoings is kinda disappointing. We still can't move players on for shit. I don't care about not getting a loan fee for Guendouzi. But we have players who aren't going to play much like Kolasinac, Mustafi, etc. Just eating up wages. To say nothing of our hood ornament, Ozil.
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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    I've said it before, but from a neutral perspective, the Manchester United "pursuit" of Sancho has been high comedy. Read a report today that a panicked United executive called a Dortmund counterpart after the announcement by Watzke on August 6 that Sancho would be staying to confirm they really meant it, and the Dortmund executive said they did. So despite the CEO making public statements and the club having it confirmed behind the scenes, United still thought they would have the upper hand. And every indication is still that United never lodged an official bid so their approach with this "chase" was to simply.... wait. And talk to the media a bunch. But mostly just wait.

    I'm not gonna lie to you gents, I genuinely hope that Ed Woodward never leaves you.

    Telles is a good signing. Not quite what some United fans are apparently making him out to be, but really solid attacking player. Less solid defensively, and possibly to the point of being a liability. His numbers in Portugal were strong... but its also Portugal. He's a Brazilian fullback through and through - in both the very positive and very negative sense.

    So Partey happened. I'm happy but not massively excited. That will probably change once I see him in action and he could change one of the weakest parts of the squad. He has that athleticism much of our midfield lacks but he's also dynamic. Very capable defensively but equally an attacking force. Which is why some Gooners are calling him the new Viera. I'll just be happy if he's Partey for us.

    I don't love the way we did it. Not notifying Atletico might be justifiable but honestly.... its just kinda classless. We used to be a better club than that. Seeing a bunch of Gooners trolling over it on Reddit and such also left a sour taste. And tons of us on social media hijacking every Partey news bit with "Now Aouar".... like settle the fuck down.

    The lack of outgoings is kinda disappointing. We still can't move players on for shit. I don't care about not getting a loan fee for Guendouzi. But we have players who aren't going to play much like Kolasinac, Mustafi, etc. Just eating up wages. To say nothing of our hood ornament, Ozil.
    Go easy on him, he has to support his family AND your club mascot now!

    I get what you mean about having players hanging around doing nothing, we've kept Marcos Alonso who is cerainly surplus to requirements and we have 5 CBs on the books with Tomori refusing to go to West Ham on loan (which is great). Rudiger probably won't see much pitch time either.

    This is the knock on effect of covid with clubs being stingy with coughing up for players. I think we might have rivalled Arsenal for Partey if we could have gotten Alonso, Rudiger or Emerson out of the club permanently, as it seems the Declan Rice move will wait for another time. Also we have been forced to keep Jorginho who is very up and down, and have just 3 CMs on the books after letting Barkley, RLC and Bakayoko go out on loan.

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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sykotic View Post
    Go easy on him, he has to support his family AND your club mascot now!

    I get what you mean about having players hanging around doing nothing, we've kept Marcos Alonso who is cerainly surplus to requirements and we have 5 CBs on the books with Tomori refusing to go to West Ham on loan (which is great). Rudiger probably won't see much pitch time either.

    This is the knock on effect of covid with clubs being stingy with coughing up for players. I think we might have rivalled Arsenal for Partey if we could have gotten Alonso, Rudiger or Emerson out of the club permanently, as it seems the Declan Rice move will wait for another time. Also we have been forced to keep Jorginho who is very up and down, and have just 3 CMs on the books after letting Barkley, RLC and Bakayoko go out on loan.
    Bless him for that offer.

    Read that part of the reason we asteroided Gunnersaurus is that he was making 80K per week. What. The Fuck? I love me some Gunnarsaurus, but that is a lot of wages.

    I really keep bouncing around on Ozil. its easy to simply view him as the villain but he's really not. They gave him the contract. They failed to back him when he spoke up about the treatment of Muslims by China. He didn't take the paycut but apparently because he asked for and was not given explanation of what the money would be used for (and given that there have been cuts after there were promises of none, he has a point). Our side needs creativity. Arteta makes it sound like Ozil just doesn't train hard but he never comes right out and says it, so it really feels like a board-driven preference that Ozil simply not play rather than a pure footballing decision (tactical or based on training).

    yeah, you guys are in much the same boat and you are generally better at moving players on than we are in the first place. High wages for clubs like us is part of it for sure. And so is money issues at other clubs

    A few other fun notes from yesterday....

    Lyon dropped their asking price for Memphis Depay to just over 20m. Barcelona still couldn't meet that.

    Barcelona up to their old tricks again, targeting Eric Garcia of Manchester City. Barcelona couldn't agree a deal so the defender is goin to leave for a free to Barca after the season.

    West Ham have terminated the contract of Jack Wilshire. Watford have terminated the contract of Danny Welbeck.
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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Thank fuck the transfer market is almost over, that's my summary of the shit-show from United. (I say almost because I wouldn't be that shocked if we ended up signing someone from the Championship - I'd rather not though!)

    I can't lie, I'm bitterly disappointed. The Sancho saga was embarrassing and the board have shown no ambition to do challenge for major honours any time soon.

    I like Telles, but being a Porto fan he's been wanting a few times defensively - but he's very good going forward. Perfect LWB which I can see Ole possibly utilizing after the poor start to the season and conceding for fun.

    Cavani just stinks of desperation from me and moves completely away from the supposed plan and philosophy we had in place. Giving him the #7 is also ridiculous, IMO. I think he will do alright though and of course he's better than Ighalo, but Ighalo isn't exactly the measuring stick at United. We've got to utilize his strengths though and I can't see United doing that with the way we play. Also I'm struggling to get my head around the comments that were made by his agent a couple of months ago that if it was for the money, he would join Chelsea or Man United. Dear god.

    Donny is obviously a good signing and I think he will do well once he's found his place and settled down. I'm Pogba's biggest fan, but I'd be happy to see VDB start ahead of him against Newcastle if that's what Ole wants to do because he needs to change something.

    Pellestri I have no expectation for, I think it's more than likely a signing that won't even be remembered in a few years but hopefully I'm wrong. Traore I'm excited about and I'm hearing a lot more positive things about him and the expectations from credible sources and journalists that he has so much potential - So that's good. Obviously both very young, will need time and they'll hopefully get time but just strange signings for me under the circumstances if I'm being honest.


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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Papa View Post
    Bless him for that offer.

    Read that part of the reason we asteroided Gunnersaurus is that he was making 80K per week. What. The Fuck? I love me some Gunnarsaurus, but that is a lot of wages.

    I really keep bouncing around on Ozil. its easy to simply view him as the villain but he's really not. They gave him the contract. They failed to back him when he spoke up about the treatment of Muslims by China. He didn't take the paycut but apparently because he asked for and was not given explanation of what the money would be used for (and given that there have been cuts after there were promises of none, he has a point). Our side needs creativity. Arteta makes it sound like Ozil just doesn't train hard but he never comes right out and says it, so it really feels like a board-driven preference that Ozil simply not play rather than a pure footballing decision (tactical or based on training).
    I would love it if Gunnersauraus was making £80k a week ...but the reality is that he probably made like £20k a year. Ridiculous decision to sack him tbh

    As for Ozil i'm convinced that the decision not to play him is purely money driven. China have outright said they won't show any Arsenal games that Ozil features in, so it's very convenient that he's not been shown in a game since then. Like you said Arteta (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't explicitly said him not training hard is the reason he's out.

    I still find it amazing that some Arsenal fans still back the club when it comes to him. He didn't take the pay cut because he felt the club weren't being honest and telling him the full truth of how the money would be used...and he was right since they made people redundant anyway. He offers to play the wages of Gunnersaurus and people try to downplay it as a PR spin to make the club look bad...maybe it is a PR spin but firing an employment of 27 years who probably made £20-30k a year tops due to 'budget cuts' only to then go and splash £45m and no doubt a large amount of wages on the exact same day is not doing yourself any favours. He seems like a nice guy whose been shoved into a shit situation.



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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    It’s Partey time. Fantastic signing that finally provides some protection and steel to our defence. Partey will definitely add quality to our midfield. I wish Arsenal wouldn't leave these things to the last second. We've had a good transfer window. I don’t mind now that we didn’t get Aouar. Maybe Arteta now gives Ozil some game time to resurrect his career.

    Glad Torreira and Guendouzi have gone out on loan but it’s a shame it wasn’t permanent deals. We really needed to get rid of Kolasinac, Mustafi and Sokratis but hopefully they go in the January window.

    The situation with Saliba is strange. We should be giving him game time now but then he was going to go out on loan. It wasn’t done on time. What was the point in paying big money for him then? Maybe a loan deal to a championship club? Overall a great window for Arsenal. Bought in a quality centre back, top defensive midfielder, Willian on a free transfer and we kept the best player Auba. Will this get us top 4, not sure. Predicted 5th so let’s see how we get on. Would be great if we get back into the CL.


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    Re: Transfer Talk Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by CGS View Post
    I would love it if Gunnersauraus was making £80k a week ...but the reality is that he probably made like £20k a year. Ridiculous decision to sack him tbh

    As for Ozil i'm convinced that the decision not to play him is purely money driven. China have outright said they won't show any Arsenal games that Ozil features in, so it's very convenient that he's not been shown in a game since then. Like you said Arteta (or anyone else for that matter) hasn't explicitly said him not training hard is the reason he's out.

    I still find it amazing that some Arsenal fans still back the club when it comes to him. He didn't take the pay cut because he felt the club weren't being honest and telling him the full truth of how the money would be used...and he was right since they made people redundant anyway. He offers to play the wages of Gunnersaurus and people try to downplay it as a PR spin to make the club look bad...maybe it is a PR spin but firing an employment of 27 years who probably made £20-30k a year tops due to 'budget cuts' only to then go and splash £45m and no doubt a large amount of wages on the exact same day is not doing yourself any favours. He seems like a nice guy whose been shoved into a shit situation.
    I was fully willing to believe we were massively overpaying our mascot because we love overpaying everyone



    Regarding Ozil.... I think with some Gooners, it just comes down to club over player, always. Regardless of player. Which i do get to an extent. You get burned a few times by star players doing what is best for them and it just becomes safer. But clubs are obviously far from infallible so sometimes that approach has you supporting the club when they are being super shitty.

    I will also say that there is a voracious element of pro-Ozil supporters that I'm not sure are that visible outside of the Arsenal bubble. Given his fall from grace, its easy to forget that he is a global superstar with a massive image. The pro-Ozil group seem to be Ozil fans first and foremost, so many are probably Arsenal fans just by proxy. And if you frequent social media, you will them defending him on even the slimmest of sleights and its usually going after other Gooners, which is kinda uncool. Its like a smaller version of #WengerOut. But it seems to me that some of that aggressive defending of Ozil has turned fairly neutral Gooners against him to a degree.

    Who cares if the Gunnersaurus offer is a PR move? It definitely is, but its still an awesome thing that ANY of the players could do. They didn't. He did. and its not like its the first time he's been altruistic. The dude is generous and always has been. If fans have decided they don't like someone, they will find ways to spin anything. I don't like the anti-Ozil squad any more than the pro-Ozil'es.

    I do think financials are a big part of him not playing. I'm sure that huge contract has some sizeable appearance fees. The criticism of China is probably also a factor, but not that directly - he made the comments last December and played plenty after that, if sporadically. He's only been frozen out since the restart. The refusal of the pay cut is probably a major factor but its a big ironic if true, given he's been vindicated, as you pointed out.

    Arteta hasn't' directly said its entirely tactical reasons or that its done to training, but he has thrown down some hints. He's made comments along the lines of "Meszut knows what he needs to do" and "needs to apply himself on a daily basis". Its easy to point at Ozil when we see some analysis that makes it clear we lack creativity since we don't create a ton of chances. But we also play in a way that everyone needs to work hard and there are plenty of performances over the past couple of years where Ozil hasn't done that. He runs more than it appears but he is also smart enough to hide himself while still doing the running.

    And Kintaro… the Saliba one is a bit weird. But I guess he's just not as ready for a first team place as we all hoped. And if he's not going go feature regularly, it makes sense for him to go on loan to where he will play every week at a reasonably high level. It does make the purchase a bit iffy - I mean, it wont' be a big deal if he comes good but the point of paying 30m when we really couldn't afford that was to be getting a uniquely-developed 18 year old who could play at a high level immediately.... not a good prospect who would need 2-4 years to be developed like most prospects. That definitely doesn't feel like a 30m buy.
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    Ozil left out of the Europa League squad for Arsenal. That looked to be one of the likeliest chances of when he might actually get picked. Now that can't happen. Also reports today that we offered him a one-time payoff to cancel the final year of his contract. Nope. He stays so he can earn huge money to half-train every day and never play.
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    some fun stories I saw pop up today....

    You United supporters will love this one... Apparently you guys made a deadline-day loan offer for Dortmund rightback Nico Schultz, which obviously failed. But it also confounded Dortmund, because Schultz made a big money move from Hoffenheim a year ago and he's been quite mediocre for Dortmund. They wanted to keep him for depth and not because they have any expectation he will be a starter. Strange player to go after, even if just on loan.

    Didn't realize that they had nipped Pellestri from Lyon, who almost had the deal done. Good young player (thanks, Football Manager).

    sounds like William Saliba is still expected to go out on loan to a Championship club. Arteta wants him to improve his set piece defending and at not diving into tackles. What makes this interesting / amusing is that when we signed him, the hype and the price had a lot of us Gooners absolutely convinced we just got Virgil van Dyk 2.0 and he would walk into the team and stabilize our defense by himself. Instead, we got Gabriel who is much closer to doing that and Saliba is really just a 19 year old player who needs time to develop.

    Came out yesterday that Arsenal offered Ozil a pay-off to cancel his contract, which he refused. He has now been left out of the Europa League squad and there is speculation he might be left ouf out of the Premier League squad registration to pressure him more to move on.
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    Allan Saint-Maximin has signed a SIX year contract with Newcastle. Makes me think that something is going on behind the scenes and we could have almost lost him over the summer so I imagine that he’s got a big increase in this new contract.

    The pessimist in me thinks that this has only been done to jack up his price a bit more and he’ll likely be gone within two seasons as we’re set to make a massive profit on him based on what we paid and how he’s performed.

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    That's just to up his price tag come next summer when the vultures come in for it. It's a common tactic really isn't it? Man Utd will probably pull the same with Pogba, trigger a year option then cash in.
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    I'm surprised that there wasn't any serious interest in Saint-Maximim this past summer. I would have expected a few clubs to be in for him as he's a serious talent who could flourish plaing for a bigger team. I'm surprised actually that he wasn't on United's radar as one of our Sancho alternatives. He's a very fast, powerful winger and he's young so would have fit the bill for what we need really.
    A 6 year conract is Newcastlesafeguarding themselves and making sure that they have the upper hand in negotiaitons when the time comes that he moves on. Fair play to them really.

    It'll be very interesting to see if he can continue his form and then to see who will acually be vying for his services. He's a very talented player who I really like.

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