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    Ufc UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012


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    Main Card

    Diaz vs Miller

    Koscheck vs Hendricks

    Palhares vs Belcher

    Barry vs Johnson

    Prelims

    Hathaway vs Krauss

    Gaudinot vs Lineker

    Castillo vs Cholish

    Denis vs Bedford

    Massenzio vs Vemola

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Main event will be awesome. Semi-main should also be pretty fun.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Let's update the final card:

    Nathan Diaz vs. Jim Miller (lightweight 5 rounds) (FOX)
    Josh Koscheck vs. Johny Hendricks (welterweight) (FOX)
    Rousimar Palhares vs. Alan Belcher (middleweight) (FOX)
    Pat Barry vs. Lavar Johnson (heavyweight) (FOX)

    Tony Ferguson vs. Michael Johnson (lightweight) (FUEL TV)
    John Dodson vs. Tim Elliott (flyweight) (FUEL TV)
    John Hathaway vs. Pascal Krauss (welterweight) (FUEL TV)
    Louis Gaudinot vs. John Lineker (flyweight) (FUEL TV)
    Danny Castillo vs. John Cholish (lightweight) (FUEL TV)
    Dennis Bermudez vs. Pablo Garza (featherweight) (FUEL TV)

    Roland Delorme vs. Nick Denis (bantamweight)
    Mike Massenzio vs. Karlos Vemola (middleweight)

    Personally, I'm expecting the whole night to be carried by the top two fights, if they deliver. I'm picking Jim Miller to win, probably by TKO. Apart from the Henderson loss, Miller has looked great and I just don't see him falling into the Diaz trap that Cerrone did. Diaz is a good fighter but I think he gets overhyped and I don't see him having enough to stop Miller or finish him. Koscheck didn't look good against Mike Pierce and I thought he was a little lucky to get the split-decision win. He is obviously a top-level wrestler, probably better than Hendricks from a technical standpoint but not by much. But if you hit him with the right punch and hit him hard enough, he will go down, and if Paulo Thiago can flash KO Koscheck, Hendricks very well could knock him out cold. Koscheck isn't that sharp standing up and he'd do well to stick to what is probably his best advantage, wrestling. I expect Koscheck/Hendricks to go one of two ways; Koscheck wrestlerapes Hendricks to win by decision, or Hendricks KO's Koscheck early on.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Weigh-In results:

    MAIN CARD (FOX)

    Nate Diaz (156) vs. Jim Miller (156)
    Johny Hendricks (170.5) vs. Josh Koscheck (170.5)
    Alan Belcher (186) vs. Rousimar Palhares (186)
    Pat Barry (244) vs. Lavar Johnson (253)

    PRELIMINARY CARD (FUEL TV)

    Tony Ferguson (154.5) vs. Michael Johnson (156)
    John Dodson (126) vs. Tim Elliott (125)
    John Hathaway (169) vs. Pascal Krauss (169)
    Louis Gaudinot (126) vs. John Lineker (127)*
    Danny Castillo (155) vs. John Cholish (155.5)
    Dennis Bermudez (145.5) vs. Pablo Garza (145)

    PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

    Roland Delorme (135) vs. Nick Denis (135)
    Mike Massenzio (184) vs. Karlos Vemola (185)

    * - Fined $1,200 for missing weight

    Any members in the area who want to go, there are plenty of tickets still available from $35 to $599 on StubHub.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Prelims underway. We got thwe TUF Runner-Up with many strong takedowns against Garza already. Allthough all in all, he's losing the ground battle...


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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Mike Massenzio vs. Karlos Vemola

    Massenzio made a few takedown attempts in the first round and these dictated the fight and won him the round. Both men started swinging in the second round and Vemola appeared to get rocked by a punch but he ended up getting Massenzio on the ground, going for a couple of submissions, before getting Massenzio’s back and, with no hooks, getting a rear naked choke in 1:07 of the second round.

    Nick Denis vs. Roland Delorme

    Delorme took some punches and then some nasty knees while Denis had his head and the referee rushed in and almost stopped it. They exchanged more punches standing up before Delorme rocked Denis and stalked him down and hit a few more stiff strikes before getting Denis down and manoeuvring into a rear naked choke, almost from the side, and Denis tapped out at 4:59. This was a hot fight and hopefully at least gets shown on Fuel.

    Pablo Garza vs. Dennis Bermudez

    Most of the first round was Bermudez in top position controlling the action but Garza using his long legs to threaten with submission attempts and a lot of upkicks. They did exchange submission attempts and the highlight was the slam/takedown from Bermudez that got the fight to the ground. The second round was mostly Bermudez in top position and using strikes to keep busy and prevent Garza from going for submissions. We also saw another nice slam from Bermudez. The third round was more of the same. Bermudez got the back of Garza near the end of the fight and was working for a choke as the fight ended. Not a captivating fight but it showcased Bermudez as being a tough Featherweight.

    John Cholish vs. Danny Castillo

    A lot of clinching and then mostly stand-up for the rest of what was an uninspiring first round. The second round saw some tentative strikes punctuated with attempted takedowns and a lot of circling around. There was a nice slam at the end but that was as exciting as the second round got. The highlight of the equally dull third round was Cholish going for a flying heel hook right before it ended.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    John Lineker vs. Louis Gaudinot

    Rock em’ Sock ‘em for most of the first round with both men just letting the fists fly, before it got to the ground with Gaudinot in top position. Lineker went for a heel hook but it came to nothing. More wild striking in the second round, and Lineker appeared to land more of the strikes, before the fight went to the ground with Gaudinot in top position and punishing Lineker. Gaudinot manages to sink in a tight guillotine and Lineker gets choked out with seconds to go.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Pascal Krauss vs. John Hathaway

    Scrappy punching and a big knee from Hathaway are the highlights of the first round. Krauss did get top position near the end but I’d say Hathaway took the first round. The second round was mostly standing with Hathaway getting in some nice strikes. He was in top position for a short period but nothing of note was really achieved. Hathaway dominated the third and didn’t really show Krauss any respect with some of the chances he took. Hathaway landed some big shots and he was clearly fighting with the idea to do enough to win without putting himself in any real danger.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Timothy Elliot vs. John Dodson

    We had lots of wild and undisciplined striking the first round but neither fighter was getting too reckless and this was another great showcase for the speed of the lighter weight divisions. Elliot got poked in the eye late in the first round and it took a couple of minutes to settle. The second round saw Elliot pull out spinning kicks and cartwheels and both guys cranked up the pace and were again going all out but Elliot got in the harder shots. More of the same hard pace in the third round but Elliot was again getting in the better and stronger shots and at the end was holding Dodson by the leg, with both standing, and really landing some big strikes. Dodson takes it 29-28 but I thought Elliot won.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Michel Johnson vs. Tony Ferguson

    There was more disciplined striking from these two. Johnson dropped Ferguson last in teh first round but Ferguson almost returned the favor. They didn’t do much in the second round. Johnson got in some big strikes but that was about it as far as action goes; most of the round was both men circling each other. Round three was more circling and feints thrown with Johnson getting in a few nice strikes but it was a rather boring fight overall.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Pat Barry vs. Lavar Johnson

    This was two grown men beating the shit out of each other. Each blow thrown was done so with bad intentions. Barry pulled out some ground work but it soon got back to a standing position and Johnson kicked and punched the shit out of Barry some more and Barry was doing nothing but covering up and when he got knocked down the referee stepped in. Not a technical classic but this lived up the hype of being a slugfest.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Pat Barry vs. Lavar Johnson

    This was two grown men beating the shit out of each other. Each blow thrown was done so with bad intentions. Barry pulled out some ground work but it soon got back to a standing position and Johnson kicked and punched the shit out of Barry some more and Barry was doing nothing but covering up and when he got knocked down the referee stepped in. Not a technical classic but this lived up the hype of being a slugfest.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Alan Belcher vs. Rousimar Palhares

    The first round was the groundwork version of the slugfests earlier in the night. Belcher and Palhares got tied up, Belcher even had Palhares in position for the ‘banana split’ and then almost for the twister. Their legs got intertwined and it became a battle for the leg of Belcher; Palhares wanting the heel hook, Belcher looking to get free. It was great. Belcher got free, got top position, and pounded Palhares into oblivion and the referee stopped the fight. This was a fantastic fight.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Excellent fights to start the card. Great performance by Belcher especially.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    On the undercard, Roland Delorme beat Nick Denis. Two Canadian kids. One of my best friends has fought both guys.


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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Johny Hendricks vs. Josh Koscheck

    Koscheck hit Hendricks with some big shots that had him looking shaky but Hendricks came back from that, and an eye poke, to get in some shots of his own and he looked good for a minute. Both men were tentative in second round before they go the ground and Koscheck gets the back of Hendricks but without hooks but the fight soon gets back standing. Hendricks managed to get Koscheck down for a bit but Koscheck got it back standing. They exchanged a few heavy hits and Hendricks almost got Koscheck down again. It slowed for the third round but at the half way mark they slugged it out momentarily and Hendricks appeared to do slightly better. The fight went to the ground with Koscheck in top position. Koscheck worked towards an arm-triangle but Hendricks defended against it although Koscheck kept top position for the rest of the fight and remained busy. Koscheck probably won the third round, and while I’d give the fight to Hendricks 29-28, it was close enough that you can’t predict how the judges would score things. It ends up going to Hendricks by Split Decision and you can’t really complain.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Jim Miller vs. Nate Diaz

    Both men throw strikes early on. Miller gets in some leg kicks and throws a number of kicks during the rest of the first round, while Diaz favors his boxing. Diaz decks Miller with a big left and has him in trouble on the ground but Miller manages to get Diaz’s back and they tussle on the ground for what remains of the first round. Diaz wins the first round. The second round saw Diaz pick Miller apart with his boxing and the damage is starting to accumulate. Miller rushed in and Diaz took him down with a power guillotine, they rolled around for a few moments, before Miller tapped out and Diaz becomes the first fighter to finish Miller.

    A really good night of fights, bar one or two stinkers.

    Full results for the night:

    Nate Diaz def. Jim Miller via submission (guillotine choke) - Round 2, 4:09
    Johny Hendricks def. Josh Koscheck via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)
    Alan Belcher def. Rousimar Palhares via TKO (strikes) - Round 1, 4:18
    Lavar Johnson def. Pat Barry via TKO (strikes) - Round 1, 4:38

    Michael Johnson def. Tony Ferguson via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
    John Dodson def. Tim Elliott via unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
    John Hathaway def. Pascal Krauss via unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27)
    Louis Gaudinot def. John Lineker via submission (guillotine choke) - Round 2, 4:54
    Danny Castillo def. John Cholish via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
    Dennis Bermudez def. Pablo Garza via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)

    Roland Delorme def. Nick Denis via submission (rear-naked choke) - Round 1, 4:59
    Karlos Vemola def. Mike Massenzio via submission (rear-naked choke) - Round 2, 1:07

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    The attendance was 10,788 and the gate was $1.1 million

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    Lavar Johnson got the bonus for Knockout of the Night
    Nate Diaz got the bonus for Submission of the Night
    John Lineker and Louis Gaudinot got bonuses for Fight of the Night

    Bonuses were $65,000

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    But the bad news was the rating, which looks to be 1.2 or 1.3, although that might rise slightly as more info comes in.

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    Hopefully, nobody panics and starts pushing for UFC to move a marquee fight to the next FOX show. This was never going to do a good numbers for FOX, with the Mayweather fight working against them in a variety of ways and Diaz/Miller not being a FOX-level main event.

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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    I can't imagine anyone within UFC or Fox was looking at this card and expecting big numbers. Neither Miller nor Diaz are draws. This was a slight bit above the quality of a UFC on Versus card.


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    Re: UFC on Fox: Diaz vs Miller (New Jersey) - May 5th, 2012

    Since UFC on FOX 4 is already set, I will say that maybe a title fight is due for UFC on FOX 5? Hendricks vs. Condit perhaps? I mean, that's a good fight, but how many will buy it on PPV? Slap it on Fox and you might see some improvements in ratings, imo. Though, I was very pleased with this card and think that people should tune in regardless of whether or not a title is on the line, because title fights don't immediately mean good fights, and more often than not it's really contender fights that end up being the most entertaining. But that's just the way I look at it from a fan's perspective. From a network executive's point of view though, I'd be pulling for a title fight on UFC on FOX 5.

    Anyways... Nate Diaz is the man! I loved the way he beat Donald Cerrone after all the shit talking that went on between the two. I knew Nate would win and him beating Jim Miller is just as great. Those are two obvious contenders right there and both got ousted by Nate. I can't wait to see Diaz vs. Henderson when Silva decides to put that together.


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