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    The Lucha Libre Thread

    Does what it says on the tin. Let us discuss the wrestling of Mexico.

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    Black Terry Jr.'s youtube channel - YouTube - tvluchadelpasado's Channel
    CMLL/AAA channel - YouTube - LuchaLibreDeMexico's Channel
    Another CMLL/AAA Channel - YouTube - WarriorsX2000's Channel
    Luckawiki - Luchawiki


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BiqHFiAnAc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-eAUnSLcc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-o7XhJRFs

    Negro Navarro/Dos Caras vs Black Terry/Shu El Guerrero, ??? 11/20/10

    A rare treat seeing the legendary Dos Caras show up on tape. Opening fall has Navarro sqauring off with Shu and Terry wih Dos, and both are pretty good. Dos vs Terry is all about them trading blows, and I like Shu's defensive wrestling against Navarro, really trying to reel him from the kneeling stance. We don't get a full-blown Navarro/Terry battle but they get chippy and take cheapshots at each other. Middle part has the rudos working over Dos and baiting Navarro a lot. They do a lot of comedy spots, which seems kind out of place when you have guys hatin' on each other, but I thought it worked as far as Navarro embarrassing Terry. The comedy is nothing new, standard lucha comedy spots and the MX arm-wringer spot, but it's amusing and a nice change of pace, even if it made the match more "fun" than something great.

    Also, I love the venue it took place at. Looks like they pretty much just set up a ring outside an industrial estate. Imagine seeing something like this in person. God bless Black Terry Jr for filming these random ass shows.
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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    Interesting. What are your top Lucha matches of the year and can you link me to them. I like to stop hating mexicans and appreciate their fail wrestling.
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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    Black Terry Jr uploaded a bunch of great shit from IWRG on a weekly basis for the first 4 months of the year. I can't be bothered to post them all in thsi thread, but they are all on his youtube channel if you can navigate your way there.

    My favourite matches of the year would be:

    Black Terry/Dr Cerebro vs Gringos Locos, IWRG 1/24
    Solar/Ricky Santana/Olimpico vs Negro Navarro/Black Terry/Sangre Chicana, AULL 2/13
    Black Terry/Dr Cerebro/Chico Che vs Gringos Locos, IWRG 3/7
    Black Terry/Dr Cerebro/Chico Che vs Gringos Locos, IWRG 3/14
    Blue Panther/Ultimo Dragon/Olimpico vs Negro Navarro/Black Terry/Villano IV, UWE 4/24
    Black Terry/Cerebro Negro vs Los Traumas, IWRG 29/4

    There are probably 20-30 other matches on there that are awesome, but those are the best for me.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    There hasnt been too many great matches coming out of AAA which is the only lucha company that I watch. But the Damian/Halloween vs Hermandad 187 match was good.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOF5TP6nr_s
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4g5eiVyagY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goxNJoGkec8

    Super Colt/Negro Navarro/Cerebro Maligno vs Rocky Santana/Solar/Sadico, ??? 11/25/10

    Pretty fun trios match. Navarro and Solar are career long-rivals who are married to each other, and their exchanges in this were all good if not mind-blowing. Counters that are not only complicated but lightning quick. The second fall is underwhelmingly short but the third fall makes up for it, as Super Colt takes a huge ringpost bump and Sadico hits a pretty crazy tope.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    The Fight Network up here shows CMLL on Saturday mornings. Been watching it on and off for awhile. The shows are a bit older - a year or two for the most part - but I've been enjoying them. It doesn't quite have much running out to grab all the lucha I can, but I'm enjoying it more than I expected.


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcnvNUHxhUg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k53_MIOraeM

    Solar/Black Shadow Jr. vs Negro Navarro/Black Terry, ??? 12/18/10

    Shadow is another aged veteran, who I have never seen or heard of before, but fits in well with the usual maestros. Once again Solar and Navarro face off, leaving Terry to face Shadow. The Solar/Navarro mat-exchanges were great as usual, ridiculously quick at the start, and both guys bust out some crazy submission holds like Solar's head-scissors/chickenwing and Navarro's grounded horsecollar. The Terry/Shadow stuff is also good, with Shadow being surprisingly athletic for a guy as eldery-looking as himself. The crowd were also very vocal.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es70TvfXoOg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDSJ9FChfhk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MIVwfeRR-c

    Comando Negro vs Pollo (Mask vs Mask), IWRG 12/26/10

    Whoever decided to book a mask vs mask bloodbath involving a comedy wrestler dressed as a chicken the day after Christmas deserves a promotion. This was a tonne of fun. Pollo looked pretty green but did enough to hold up his end, and Comando held the rest together (and even beat up the midget sidekick). Awesome, awesome brawling with Comando just beating the shit out of the chicken to the point where the head was all ripped up and the outfit covered in blood with both guys wrecklessly throwing chairs at each other through the crowd. If this isn't pro wrestling, I don't know what is.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    Navarro/Cerebro/Terry vs. Solar/Suicida/Zatura and Cererbo vs. Hijo del Diablo from early in the year are probably my two best matches of the year. I still need to watch a pile of the other lucha stuff but they're both great.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    This thread should be getting more attention.

    Here's one from 95 I think, a match between two legendary luchas..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY03BRK49uU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdmKrEijzNU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHR95qtNms

    You just don't get matches like that anymore.


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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9HREr0mvsQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lW1oy_of6Q

    LA PARK vs El Mesias, AAA Guerra De Titanes 2010

    Awesome, awesome violent brawl. PARK beats the dogshit out of Mesias and both men bleed a tonne. PARK's mask gets ripped to shreads and he has maybe the most grotesque bladejob of the year. Mesias's comebacks felt meaningful, especially the powerbomb on trashcan (which PARK had done to him earlier) and he hits some great dives that launch both guys into the barricades, and PARK looked like one of the best brawlers in the world here. Probably one of the best AAA matches ever.

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    Re: The Lucha Libre Thread

    IWRG gives us the first two big MOTYCs for 2011.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd06OAo5mIg
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UsTZEObNRc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sT2l6urJ0I

    Black Terry/Negro Navarro vs Gran Apache/Angel Mortal, IWRG 1/9

    Now this was much more up my alley. This was IWRG guys vs outsiders, so there was a much larger sense of animosity and hate. It was still worked like a maestros mat-wrestling contest, but the sense that these guys didn't take kindly to each other was pretty clear. Apache and Mortal fit in real well in this environment, and more than held their own against Terry and Navarro. Mortal in particular sold his ass off vocally and facially to make Navarro look like a badass. The first two falls things were kept civil but the built to them all snapping was great, with Navarro being a dick with handshakes and Apache getting his own back. The moment when Navarro blows a gasket and punches Mortal right in the fucking kidney was great, and the final minutes with everyone throwing fists was really chaotic. The first real MOTYC of 2011.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScaQImyk7vU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVpB5zt7_r8

    Black Terry/Negro Navarro vs Gran Apache/Angel Mortal, IWRG 1/16

    The rematch, and it picked up where they left off. I didn't think the mat sections of this were nearly as strong as in the first match, but they more than made up for it when it came time to brawl. Apache was fucking great in this, after him and Mortal won the second fall he starts verbally berating Terry and smacking the shit out of him, basically acting like a world class prick. Terry bled a bunch and sold Apache's beating like only Terry will sell a beating. There was a fantastic close-up of Tery's face as Mortal was ripping and gouging at him that was totally grotesque. And in true Black Terry fashion, when it was time for the comeback, he came back with a motherfucking vengeance, turning Mortal into a bloody mess himself. Not sure wether I prefered this over the first match, but both are great.

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