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    WWE Armageddon
    December 15, 2002


    Chris Jericho and Christian (c) vs Booker T and Goldust vs Dudley Boyz vs Lance Storm and William Regal - World Tag Team Titles
    Even though the SD tag scene was stealing the show, Raw had a pretty good division in the Fall of 2002 as well. I'm not sure why they bothered having the Dudley Boyz or the former UnAmericans in the match. They're both eliminated quickly and the real story was just between the champs and Bookdust. Once they're alone, we get some more quality tag work between the two teams. Bookdust finally winning the tag belts was an emotional ending to their long battle for them. The WWE just threw all of this away as Storm/Regal and The Dudley Boyz would be the ones feuding over the belts within a few weeks. That's some half ass booking if there ever was some. Fun match with the end celebration allowing it to be as enjoyable as the No Mercy Raw tag match. 3 1/4 Stars.

    A-Train vs Edge
    Rumor has it that A-Train's push was debatable on whether giving it to him or Matt Hardy. The geniuses over at SD decided to give it to A-Train instead of Hardy where it would have led to Hardy challenging Rey Mysterio at Wrestlemania. A-Train was still his lackluster self so it's up to Edge to attempt to carry this match. Quite the expectation since Edge was being helped in all of his best matches of 2002. To Edge's credit, this ended up being a lot better than it had any right to be. The only issue is the lame DQ ending. I'm guessing they didn't want to give A-Train the loss since it was the start of his push, but they also had plans for Edge in 2003, so he couldn't afford the loss. Looking back, A-Train should have went over here due to Edge being out with the broken neck. Then again. A-Train would end up bombing out and would be depushed shortly after Wrestlemania 19 to head back to Velocity before his short bounce back for Summerslam. Ironically, Matt Hardy ended up getting the push he should have originally should have with his match against Mysterio at Wrestlemania. 2 1/4 Stars.

    Eddie Guerrero vs Chris Benoit
    It's the end of an era, albeit a very short one. When this match was originally booked, I saw it as a major sign that the insanely great three-way tag feud on SD was over. Personally, I was hoping to see Los Guerreros defend the tag titles on this show. Guerreros vs Benoit and Billy Kidman perhaps? I loved all of the leg work throughout the match by Guerrero. While Eddie may have not always been consistent, when he was on, he was damn near perfect. Extra points for not forgetting about leg and using it in the finishing stretch. I could have did without the Chavo Guerrero interference, but they were smart enough not to let Chavo create a cheap finish. Benoit once again shows his amazing ring awareness by switching arms in the Crippler Crossface when Guerrero nearly reaches the ropes with his right arm. The best part of all this is that Benoit looks like a million bucks, but Guerrero also looks good for having a solid strategy. There's no shame in losing to a top star. It seems as if I owe Mr. Benoit and Mr. Guerrero an apology for taking so long before giving this match a second chance. 3 1/2 Stars.

    I'm skipping over all of this Dawn Marie/Torrie Wilson crap. They hyped it up as if we'd see some HLA, but you know they're not going to, thus it's pointless. You can see better acting in a porno. Actually, you can see real HLA in a porno as well. To the porn sites, I say!

    Batista w/Ric Flair vs Kane
    The second of the new/first pushes that is showcased on this show. Big Dave is so green here that Kane is forced to carry the match by overselling. It's never a good sign when the fate of a match is on Kane's shoulders. Batista botches a Batista Bomb attempt that I can't even tell if it's a normal botch or if Kane was supposed to prevent Dave from lifting him up, but Batista forgot and just lifted Kane up. Ric Flair takes it upon himself to be the only entertaining one in this. It seems as if the crowd agrees as they're dead quiet whenever Flair isn't at the center of attention. Who would have thought back then that A-Train showed a lot more promise to be a future major star than Batista? Rumor has it that Kane and Batista were penciled in to main event No Way Out 2006 before Batista's injury. I imagine that would have been a lot better. 1 1/2 Stars.

    Victoria (c) vs Trish Stratus vs Jacqueline - Women's Title
    Someone must have threatened Jacqueline's job because she tore it up in this. Easily the best performance of her WWE career. Victoria was still struggling with delivering quality women matches so she's hit and miss here. Not surprisingly, Trish botches every other move and is the weakest performer in this bout. "But Trish is the best woman wrestler ever!" Mhmm, sure she was. Keeping the match under five minutes allowed it to be nonstop action and not a negative aspect of the show like women matches tend to be. Dare I say the best women's PPV match of 2002? Who am I kidding, they all sucked. This just sucked the least. Check this out to see Jacqueline intimating a good wrestler, it's quite the sight. 1 3/4 Stars.

    The Big Show (c) w/Paul Heyman vs Kurt Angle - WWE World Title
    After busting his ass for Smackdown since the brand split started, Angle is finally rewarded with the WWE title. As someone who's not a big Show (Ha, see what I did there?) fan, he impressed me with his mat wrestling and attempt at working a fun big man vs small man match instead of just being slow and sluggish. This match is an example for far Angle has declined over the years. Instead of working the same match every night like he does now, here he is flying around and playing his role of the smaller man to perfection. This was such a huge improvement from the Survivor Series WWE title match. Despite being overbooked, the finish made sense with A-Train, Heyman and Lesnar all interfering. It also set-up several feuds to start 2003. The World Title scene looked to revolve around Kurt Angle/A-Train (First title feud), Lesnar/Show (Grudge feud based on the title) and Edge/Benoit in for the supporting characters. To enjoy this match the most, you really have to ignore what happens in the weeks that follow. Heyman and Angle revealing an alliance made all of this pointless. Forgetting about that for this review, here's a good example of how to showcase a David and Goliath match. 3 Stars.

    Shawn Michaels (c) vs Triple H w/Ric Flair - Three Stages of Hell - World Heavyweight Title
    Summerslam 2002 this is not. Despite getting forty minutes for these three falls, this never really gets going. Both men are sluggish and botching awkward spots. Maybe it's because the crowd knew that Hunter would win, but their disinterest is the polar opposite of the Long Island crowd for Summerslam. The booking of the match also leaves a lot to be desired. The first fall of the street fight is given twenty minutes, but it's nowhere near as good as the Summerslam match. The other two falls (Cage and Ladder) are given so little time to tell any sort of story. The match just drags on for forty minutes until it thankfully (And predictably) ends. There are a couple of cool moments in the match though. The flaming 2x4 wrapped in barbed wire is one of the more extreme things the WWE has done since Mick Foley retired from being a full time wrestler. Shawn Michaels' crash and burn through the stacked tables for the final spot is an awesome spot that has been repeated to death. While I wouldn't brag about it much, compared to the other Hunter title matches around these days, this is better than most. So at least in that respect, it's a positive. Looking at the booking logic side of this, it doesn't make much sense. What was the point of giving Michaels this one month long title reign? Despite not being a full time wrestler, Michaels was already the most popular wrestler on Raw, so it didn't make him any more popular. Since he loses it back to Hunter, it's not as if he puts anyone over either. While Raw was desperate for a midcard face to get the rub and move up to the main event, Hunter had a death hold on the title. Yet, his buddy who hadn't wrestled for four years before Summerslam comes back and he's more than willing to put him over twice in one year. How does that help Raw at all? Meanwhile, you have RVD, the most popular full time wrestler on Raw, wasting his night at WWF New York when he should have been here. A triple threat match would have probably been better plus Rob could have received a rub from once again being in the ring with a star of Michaels stature. The decisions that the Raw bookers made in late 2002 would end up making Raw main event scene unwatchable in 2003. It would take bringing over Chris Benoit and giving him the belt to finally get Raw back on track. Raw has officially become a mess. 2 1/2 Stars.

    Overall
    I originally ordered this PPV solely because I wasn't able to buy Survivor Series. At the time, the only saving graces for this PPV was the opening tag and the main event. Skip forward nearly eight years and SD barely saves the show while the main event drags the show down. Paul Heyman's Smackdown booking had reached it's peak. Heyman's time as booker created one of the more fun times for a brand since the brand extension was started up. Heyman was successful in making the tweener role work out for most of his stars. In fact, the only SD face that wrestled tonight was Edge. Benoit, Angle and even Brock (Granted, he didn't wrestle) were either becoming faces or were just for the one night (Angle). Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero stepped up for the SD brand to put on two worthwhile matches. Meanwhile, the tag scene remains to be the only worthwhile part of Raw. Alas, that would be over with this PPV as well. Starting at the top of the year, the tag scene becomes yet another negative part of the Raw roster. Still, for a PPV that is known for just existing in between two of the biggest PPV's of the year, it has some good stuff to offer if you skip through the crap. If you end up buying the DVD, you're treated to an amazing four way match between Edge, Angle, Guerrero and Benoit that happens to be better than anything on this show.
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    Pretty much agree with what you say. Eddie vs Benoit was a pretty good match, not their best, but still a good match. And yeah I hated the main too. The burning 2x4 was nasty, but the match was just a relly forced attempt at being "epic" and was a total mess. First fall you had all of the legwork on Michaels which was instantly forgotten about, then the cage part was just a clusterfuck.

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    I didn't see this PPV live, wasn't interested in wrestling by that time, but I've seen this event on dvd many times. Well, I also was kinda bored by the main event. The match they had had at SummerSlam that year was way better and they botched too many moves, especially at the third fall.
    Eddie vs. Benoit was the best match of the night, agreed, but it really wasn't their best match.
    All in all an "okay-event", but nothing you have to see! Nice review, man. Keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Rage View Post
    By the way, did anybody else notice that the 2x4 nearly hit someone in the crowd when HHH threw it away? Man that would have sucked...
    The 2x4 was on fire and next to the crowd for several long moments before Michaels grabbed it. That had to be pretty scary for the fans there. There was one fan who was trying to blow it out.

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    I know this thread is old and dead but I just rewatched this show and had to comment. In my opinion everything on this show is incredibly overrated. Every match, even Benoit/Eddie to a degree, comes off very lazy and lacking effort. I skipped Angle/Show but I doubt it's an exception. Every punch and kick either looks like it's in slow motion or is miles away from it's recipient. Very few moves from basic attacks to finishers have any impact at all. Botched moves and spots galore in practically every match. Batista/Kane can get a pass due to him being a rookie but it's really hard to conceive of how they could botch the powerbomb the way they did. HBK and HHH should have been ashamed to put on such a terrible performance. I understand the injuries but I'm pretty sure they could still speak. Maybe use your voices since your bodies are broken to generate some amount of heat. Commentary comes off as lazy and sloppy. Camera guy shows us HHH blading and misses things throughout the night. Just all around terrible show.

    I usually either agree with your ratings Jim or I can understand your point of view but I just don't see how you can't at least mention some of the laziness on this show. I can enjoy watching bad wrestling or bad booking but it's really hard to enjoy this one at all when they can't even make punches look believable enough for me to even slightly suspend my belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatfishJake View Post
    I usually either agree with your ratings Jim or I can understand your point of view but I just don't see how you can't at least mention some of the laziness on this show. I can enjoy watching bad wrestling or bad booking but it's really hard to enjoy this one at all when they can't even make punches look believable enough for me to even slightly suspend my belief.
    I'm surprised by this as it's not as if 2010 Jim gave this event some glowing review. Each match had some sort of clear negative about it.

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    after a rewatch I'm going to have to retract my previous post. still some sloppiness and botchiness but I enjoyed it much more 2nd time around. too much wacky tobacky i guess first time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatfishJake View Post
    after a rewatch I'm going to have to retract my previous post. still some sloppiness and botchiness but I enjoyed it much more 2nd time around. too much wacky tobacky i guess first time around.
    Did your opinion change over a specific match or just the overall show? If it's the show, what made you go back and re-watch it so soon after just seeing it last in December?

    Opinions do change over time. This show is an example of that particularly with Benoit/Guerrero. My next WWE PPV review will feature a match that took me a few viewings to finally get behind. It's a bit interesting how opinions can change not only with time, but with other factors. I think it's very possible that one would have a slightly different opinion if you watch a match on it's own, in the context of the PPV it takes place on, and in the middle of a DVD comp. Sometimes it helps to know the backstory, but other times knowing too much can hurt especially if there's booking issues.

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    I remember having this PPV on VHS back when I was probably 7 years old and although I've never gone back to rewatch it since that time, I did watch it probably 50 times before I lost the video. I definitely remember the Michaels vs Triple H match more fondly than you have rated it, but I was pretty young so I wasn't taking into account the sloppiness, the fact that HHH was never putting anyone over and the main event scene sucked at that time and such. I just recall enjoying the bloodshed and the several big spots and heavy use of weapons and close finishes, as well as seeing two of my all time favorites really beat the shit out of each other, but... Thank you for sullying my memory, Jim.

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    With the HHH/HBK street fight, the two have good chemistry together and the street fight portion was pretty hardcore with the flaming 2x4 and HHH delivering a sick Russian leg sweep to HBK on a steel chair. I didn't pay attention to who botched what, I just knew these guys just wanted to kill each other. Not as electric as the Summerslam or Last RAW of 03 matches but you could still feel the heat between the two. The last two falls felt rushed and didn't add anything to the match. Also what was the point of giving HBK a title reign if he was going to give it back to HHH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by strange brew View Post
    Also what was the point of giving HBK a title reign if he was going to give it back to HHH?
    To give HBK a feel good title reign for his comeback. It ended up being the only one he got, if I'm not mistaken.


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