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    Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

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    [br]WRESTLER OF THE YEAR

    1. CHRIS JERICHO (139)1,198
    2. Edge (116)1,168
    3. Shawn Michaels (157)1,111
    4. Keiji Muto (97)976
    5. Nigel McGuinness(45) 658
    6.John Cena(73) 595
    7. Shingo Takagi (57)449
    8. Cibernetico (53)377
    9. Kurt Angle (32)275
    10.Bryan Danielson (12)215

    HONORABLE MENTION: Hiroshi Tanahashi 199, Kensuke Sasaki 178, Randy Orton 125, HHH 113, Kenta Kobashi 112, Jeff Hardy 85, Naomichi Marufuji 71, Samoa Joe 62


    MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER
    1. BRYAN DANIELSON (325)2,042

    2. Shawn Michaels (173)1,406
    3. Nigel McGuinness (32)753
    4. Naomichi Marufuji (46)718
    5. Chris Jericho (36)578
    6. Kurt Angle (47)426
    7. KENTA (19)315
    8. Hiroshi Tanahashi (16)277
    9. Edge (17)251
    10. Masato Tanaka (29)185

    HONORABLE MENTION: Jeff Hardy 164, El Generico 155, Samoa Joe 127, Cima 122, Shingo Takagi 115, Blue Panther 107, Austin Aries 94

    Danielson, 27, took the award by a sizable margin for the third straight year. Historically, only Jushin Liger and Kurt Angle have won equaled that feat. Michaels made it closer this year, as he was second last year and seven of the top ten from last year were back, with Jericho, Angle and Tanaka replacing Samoa Joe, Takeshi Morishima and John Cena.

    The question for Danielson largely revolves around where he plans to take his career. In WWE, he’ll have a hard time with his size and look to get into main events. He’ll have a hard time getting the kind of time necessary for him to have the kind of matches he’s been used to having as anything but a main eventer. TNA has never expressed major interest in him. He’s in the perfect place as far as making a career of having great matches and being a big fish in a small pond, in an organization where he’s largely acknowledged as the “best” guy, whether he wins or loses or has the title. But it’s a struggling company and the paychecks aren’t there. Another aspect of his decision revolves around Pro Wrestling NOAH, which in losing TV, is going to have to downsize, which usually means bringing in less foreigners. If that money goes away, it may also affect his decision. It’s quite the unique business where the best path to money would mean to give up the already achieved moniker for the third straight year as“the best wrestler in the world.”


    FEUD OF THE YEAR
    1. CHRIS JERICHO VS. SHAWN MICHAELS (443)2,647
    2. Undertaker vs. Edge (56)1,195
    3. New Japan vs. Zero-One Max (71)595
    4. Austin Aries vs. Jimmy Jacobs (19)416
    5. Konnan vs. Joachim Roldan (37)362
    6. Georges St. Pierre vs. Matt Serra (2)321
    7. Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens (15)289
    8. Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels (19)232
    9. HHH vs. Jeff Hardy (6)160
    10. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe (2) 138

    HONORABLE MENTION: Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness 128, Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim 110, Brock Lesnar vs. Randy Couture 84, Junie Browning vs. Efraim Escudero 72, Shawn Michaels vs. Batista 70


    TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR
    1. JOHN MORRISON & THE MIZ (294)2,130
    2. Kevin Steen & El Generico (137)1,099
    3. Robert Roode & James Storm (30)1,077
    4. Masato Yoshino & Naruki Doi (120)1,035
    5. KENTA & Taiji Ishimori (83)804
    6. Mark & Jay Briscoe (30)708
    7. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (38)469
    8. Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley (15)460
    9. Shingo Takagi & BxB Hulk (16)252

    10. Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima (22)251

    HONORABLE MENTION: Homicide & Hernandez 205, Kensuke Sasaki& Katsuhiko Nakajima 144, Togi Makabe & Toru Yano 142, Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase 122., Teddy Hart & Jack Evans 70, Team 3-D 66

    There was close competition–for second place. Morrison & Miz, a former winner and a former second place finisher in Tough Enough, as the WWE’s spotlight team, appearing regularly on all three television shows, had the exposure and star power to win it. They had good matches, although not really close to the level of most of the other teams in the top ten. Another thing that benefitted them is that they were the only WWE team of real note this year and it’s been a long time since WWE has pushed as a tag team at this level. Steen & Generico went from third to second in winning the ROH tag team titles. The Briscoes, who ran away with it last year, fell to sixth, battling injuries. Tenzan & Kojima, winning both the New Japan and All Japan tag team tournaments in the same year, would have won them the award in many years, but to show how far those tournaments have fallen, it only got them 10th place. Chris Sabin & Alex Shelley ended up running in place for much of the year and fell from 2nd to 8th. Matt & Jeff Hardy didn’t team enough to place


    MOST IMPROVED
    1. THE MIZ (203)1,578
    2. Tyler Black (194)1,244
    3. John Morrison (15)237
    4. Cody Rhodes (22)235
    5. Suwama (16)234
    6. Yamato (33)216
    7. Kofi Kingston (9)184
    8. Shingo Takagi (14)182
    9. Ted DiBiase (8)116
    10. Rhett Titus (13)96

    HONORABLE MENTION: Nigel McGuinness 92, Atsushi Aoki 90, Kevin Steen 85, Chris Jericho 84, Robert Roode 84, Davey Richards 68, The Brian Kendrick 62, Mike Knox 60

    This ended as a two-person race. In the ring, Black blows away Miz. But Miz holds up his end of a good tag team act, and obviously won this one based on greater exposure. This is always a weird category because it’s supposed to be about people who have made the most improvement, but it’s often about who the promotion decides to push.


    BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER
    1. BRYAN DANIELSON (582)3,231
    2. Nigel McGuinness (45)1,192

    3. Kurt Angle (68)748
    4. Naomichi Marufuji (32)694
    5. Atsushi Aoki364
    6. William Regal (6)260
    7. Yuji Nagata236
    8. Chris Jericho (24)222
    9. Shawn Michaels (10)208
    10. Mike Quackenbush (9)179

    This is the fourth straight year on top for Danielson. In the history of the award, only Jushin Liger (1989-92) has equaled that. If he wins next year, and barring injury or leaving ROH, he goes in as a strong favorite, he will tie Chris Benoit for the most times anyone has won the award. Benoit, from 1995 to 2006, finished in the top three every year but one, and that was a year he missed about half the year with injuries. Nigel McGuinness took second for the second straight year, after finishing 4th in 2006. Atsushi Aoki, in his third year in the business, cracked the top five. HONORABLE MENTION: Blue Panther 162, Roderick Strong 119, Josh Barnett 90, Fit Finlay 82, Matt Hardy 63


    BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER)
    1. NECRO BUTCHER (193)1,386

    2. Samoa Joe (127)1,133
    3. Takeshi Morishima (125)1,044
    4. Undertaker (76)831
    5. Masato Tanaka (40)576
    6. Togi Makabe (28)534
    7. Fit Finlay (48)358
    8. Awesome Kong (21)343
    9. Jimmy Jacobs (17)268
    10. Kevin Steen (8)172


    HONORABLE MENTION: Abyss 162, Kurt Angle 141, Edge 119, Umaga 78, Nigel McGuiness 70

    The one wrestler who may get a modicum of fame out of appearing in “The Wrestler,” Necro Butcher passed the 2006 winner, Joe, and 2007 winner, Morishima in a three-person race. Necro Butcher becomes the first person who was not a pretty major star to win the award if you look back at its history


    PROMOTION OF THE YEAR
    1. ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS (533)3,340
    2. World Wrestling Entertainment (52)1,329
    3. Ring of Honor (58)1,188
    4. Dragon Gate (26)591
    5. New Japan Pro Wrestling (33)575
    6. World Extreme Cagefighting (7)406
    7. Pro Wrestling NOAH (15)312
    8. Total Nonstop Action (32)276
    9. AAA (12)227
    10. CHIKARA (21)209

    HONORABLE MENTION: CMLL 183, IWRG 131, Dream 86

    Even though I enjoyed every ROH show I saw this year, which is more than I could say for any other promotion, to me UFC and WWE had to be top two, and you can make a case for either of them for No. 1. WWE is a more established organization that’s the industry leader in many facets. UFC is an organization copying from the business methodology that WWE has established, but had incredible PPV success this past year. The gap, from a business and overall success standpoint, between the first two and No. 3 seems wider than the Pacific Ocean this year



    WORKED MATCH OF THE YEAR
    1. SHAWN MICHAELS VS. CHRIS JERICHO 10/5 PORTLAND (179)1,146
    2. Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels 3/30 Orlando (140)933
    3. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe 4/13 Lowell (33)622
    4. Blue Panther vs. Villano V 9/19 Mexico City (30)594
    5. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama 12/2/07 Tokyo (36)539
    6. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries 12/29/07 New York (37)475
    7. Nigel McGuinness vs. Bryan Danielson 2/23 New York (49)405
    8. Undertaker vs. Edge 3/30 Orlando (22)386
    9. Naomichi Marufuji & Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. KENTA & Kota Ibushi 9/14 Tokyo (39)360
    10. Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino & Genki Horiguchi vs. Cima & Ryo Saito & Dragon Kid 3/29 Orlando (12)348

    HONORABLE MENTION: KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji 10/25 Tokyo 313, Undertaker vs Edge 8/17 Indianapolis 301, Nigel McGuinness vs. Tyler Black 3/16 Philadelphia 280, Bryan Danielson vs. Tyler Black 7/26 Detroit 251, Naomichi Marufuji vs. Shuji Kondo 11/3 Tokyo 217, Kenta Kobashi & KENTA vs. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima 6/14 Tokyo 198, Volador Jr. & Sagrado & La Sombra vs. El Hijo del Fantasma & La Mascara & Valiente 4/30 Mexico City 192, KENTA & Taiji Ishimori vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Kotaro Suzuki 9/6 Tokyo 114, Kurt Angle vs. A.J. Styles 8/10 Trenton 113, HHH vs. Jeff Hardy 10/5 Portland 113, Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Masato Yoshino & Naruki Doi 3/28 Orlando 109, Kurt Angle vs. Yuji Nagata 1/4 Tokyo 78, Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Tyler Black & Jimmy Jacobs 9/19 Boston 76, Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji 12/2/07 Tokyo 72

    Jericho-Michaels breaks the ROH streak of three straight years with the match of the year. This year, no ROH match made top five.


    BEST NON-WRESTLER
    1. LARRY SWEENEY (260)2,208

    2. Vickie Guerrero (327)2,039
    3. Jim Cornette (22)548
    4. Mick Foley (15)474
    5. Nobuhiko Takada (45)323
    6. Vince McMahon (2)294
    7. Dana White (3)225
    8. Konnan (35)211
    9. Teddy Long (11)139
    10. Karen Angle 67

    PREVIOUS WINNERS: 1999 - Vince McMahon; 2000 - Vince McMahon; 2001 - Paul Heyman; 2002 - Paul Heyman; 2003 - Steve Austin; 2004 - Paul Heyman; 2005 - Eric Bischoff; 2006 - Jim Cornette; 2007 - Larry Sweeney

    Sweeney won for the second straight year in a two person race even though Guerrero had the exposure advantage. Last year, Guerrero didn’t even get an honorable mention listing and this year she came close to winning. This is a weird business as of those in last year’s top ten, Jim Mitchell, Karen Angle, Lacey and Armando Estrada and basically no longer in the business and Jim Cornette, a close third, has gone long stretches off since Mick Foley came.



    BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER
    1. MATT STRIKER (264)1,950
    2. Jim Ross (232)1,906
    3. Joe Rogan (99)1,110
    4. Mike Goldberg (49)698
    5. Frank Mir (2)296
    6. Mike Tenay (9)285
    7. Tazz (3)249
    8. Dave Prazak (31)239
    9. Gus Johnson (30)238
    10. Mauro Ranallo(16)196

    HONORABLE MENTION: Mick Foley 129, Bas Rutten 127, Frank Shamrock 122, Lenny Leonard 105


    BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW
    1. WWE WRESTLEMANIA 3/30 ORLANDO (158)1,683
    2. UFC 91 11/15 Las Vegas (199)1,677
    3. WEC 6/1 Sacramento (43)682
    4. ROH Supercard of Honor 3/29 Orlando (112)673
    5. WWE No Mercy 10/5 Portland (52)635
    6. ROH Death Before Dishonor 8/2 New York (2)249
    7. Pro Wrestling NOAH 3/2 Tokyo (16)234
    8. ROH Take No Prisoners 3/16 Philadelphia (29)212
    9. WWE Royal Rumble 1/27 New York (2)194
    10. Dragon Gate 9/5 Los Angeles (18)179

    HONORABLE MENTION: UFC Ultimate Fighter finals 12/8/07 Las Vegas 169, ROH Rising Above 12/29/07 New York 151, UFC 79 12/29/07 Las Vegas 134, TNA Lockdown 4/13 Lowell 122, ROH 3/28 Orlando 115, ROH Driven 9/19 Boston 114, ROH 9/14 Tokyo 112, UFC 81 2/2 Las Vegas 85, TNA Bound for Glory 10/12 Chicago 74, UFC 87 8/9 Minneapolis 60, ROH 7/26 Detroit 60

    The closest race of the year between the year’s two most highly publicized shows of the two most successful companies. An interesting note is that it was the first time since 2001 that Wrestlemania has won this award, and those are the only two times it has happened in history, since the first Super J Cup took place the same year as Wrestlemania X. An interesting note is that two shows made top ten and a third was an honorable mention from Orlando over Wrestlemania weekend with the two ROH shows.


    BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER

    1. EVAN BOURNE SHOOTING STAR PRESS259
    2. Tyler Black God’s Last Gift46
    3. Undertaker gogoplata34
    4. Mistico La Mistica30
    5. Chris Jericho codebreaker26
    6. KENTA Go 2 sleep24
    7. Randy Orton RKO22
    8. Dragon Kid dragonrana20
    9. Kota Ibushi double moonsault19
    10. Taiji Ishimori superstar elbow18

    HONORABLE MENTION: Tyler Black Phoenix splash, Masato Tanaka sliding D 16


    BEST BOOKER
    1. JOE SILVA383
    2. Gabe Sapolsky229
    3. Gedo & Jado86
    4. Mike Quackenbush55
    5. Vince McMahon29
    6. Michael Hayes28
    7. Genki Horiguchi26
    8. Russo/Mantel/Jarrett12


    PROMOTER OF THE YEAR
    1. DANA WHITE699
    2. Vince McMahon60
    3. Cary Silkin46
    4. Naoki Sugabayashi10
    5. Dixie Carter9


    Best Gimmick

    1. SANTINO MARELLA338
    2. Beautiful People62
    3. Rhett Titus36
    4. Charlie Haas21
    5. John Morrison14
    6. Junie Browning12
    7. Festus9
    I am very shocked at some of the results. Nigel not being closer to #1 (5 is great, but I really expected close to #1), Aries/Jacobs going over Strong/Stevens, not being higher up at the MOTY list.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Can anyone tell me why MMA would be included in awards for a scripted sport? >_>

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan_1986 View Post
    Can anyone tell me why MMA would be included in awards for a scripted sport? >_>
    Havent a clue but it is as annoying as hell when a Wrestling newsletter has pretty much the same amount of UFC/MMA as actual Wrestling. They are too different to be done in the same catagories.
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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    The Observer is written by bigger marks than most of the IWC, so I really don't care what they say. Mutoh, Shingo and Ciber in the top 10 wrestlers of the year? Edge/Taker and Konnan/Roldan as fueds of the year? Miz/Morrison as team of the year? Seriously? They also included Kobashi's return match in the MOTY list even though it was 2007.

    Nice to See ROH getting praise though, I suppose.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    at Shooting Star Press getting so much praise.


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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    I'm more surprised at the God's Last Gift coming in second. With Tyler Black alone, I'd still put the Phoenix Splash over it.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Eh, God's Last Gift is an original move as far as I'm aware, whereas a good amount of guys have used the Pheonix before. That'd be a pretty important thing to consider, for me atleast.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    You could take those into account, yeah, but as far as effectiveness I think I've seen him win more matches with the Phoenix. I wasn't even aware God's Last Gift was a finisher, I thought it was a signature move.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    You've seen more than me, but I thought everyone was aware it was his finisher. Has it really been kicked out of that much?

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    It could be because Tyler's had very few singles matches, but I don't see the move (or I could just be forgetting) too often. Last week, I saw Jerry Lynn kick out of it in what was really a basic match, the most notable win I can remember with the move was against Bryan Danielson at New Horizons.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketh. View Post
    You could take those into account, yeah, but as far as effectiveness I think I've seen him win more matches with the Phoenix. I wasn't even aware God's Last Gift was a finisher, I thought it was a signature move.
    Hahah, just shows how horrible ROH was for a while. About 90% of the roster thought that ruining your finishing move made for 5 STAR MATCHEZ~! Hopefully that bullshit is done with now that Adam Pearce took over. When your finisher gets kicked out of so many times that fans don't even know it's your finisher you know you've failed.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    You say that as if ROH are the only ones guilty of that.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    What other wrestling fed has 10 finishers being kicked out of on the first half of the show? Maybe some bum fuck indy fed no one has heard of but as far as legitimate wrestling feds go, ROH is the only one that comes to mind.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Any particular shows you're referring to? Because I've seen all the 2008 shows up to RoH2 and I don't recall anything as bad as that.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


    Quote Originally Posted by Dakstang
    You can't have a reasonable discussion about serious topics with people like Marketh around.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Oh, I agree that ROH are the worst for it, I'm just saying they aren't the only group of wrestlers who pretty much numb their finishers.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    Quote Originally Posted by Marketh. View Post
    Any particular shows you're referring to? Because I've seen all the 2008 shows up to RoH2 and I don't recall anything as bad as that.
    Obviously it was just hyperbole, I don't sit around counting finishers when I watch ROH shows. But I'm betting it wouldn't be too hard to find a show with at least 10 finisher kick outs throughout the show.

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    Re: Wrestling Observer Awards - ROH's Results

    I get that it was an exaggeration, but even then, in the first half of the show, as you said, I don't think there'd even be 2 or 3 finisher kickouts. The main culprits are guys like Aries and Nigel, who apart from a few shows, mostly go on the second half.


    2014 ROH Matches Ranking:

    #1. Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles - ROH on SBG 1/2/14
    #2. Adam Cole vs. Jay Briscoe - Ladder War V
    #3. Adam Cole vs. Kevin Steen - Global Wars
    #4. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - 12th Anniversary Show
    #5. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson - 12th Anniversary Show

    Spoiler:

    #6. Kevin Steen & The Young Bucks vs. Michael Elgin & The Briscoes - Raising the Bar - Night 1
    #7. Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - Supercard of Honor VIII
    #8. Adam Cole vs. Chris Hero - Ringmaster's Challenge
    #9. The Young Bucks vs. Forever Hooligans vs. The Time Splitters - Global Wars
    #10. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Steen - War of the Worlds

    2014 Five Worst ROH Matches Ranking:
    #5. Bobby Fish vs. The Romantic Touch - The Road to Best In The World - Night 1
    #4. Brutal Burgers vs. RD Evans & Moose - Field Of Honor
    #3. The Romantic Touch vs. Caprice Coleman - State of the Art
    #2. Corey Hollis vs. Mike Posey - Top Prospect Tournament (Round 1)
    #1. Alex Reigns vs. Weezy Woo - State of the Art


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    You can't have a reasonable discussion about serious topics with people like Marketh around.

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